There are a lot of interesting views of how everyone here has been exposed to self taught devs and cs grads and it seems from where I live and what I have seen

There are a lot of interesting views of how everyone here has been exposed to self taught devs and cs grads and it seems from where I live and what I have seen its the opposite. I have seen horrible code from both sides from indie app devs to professional algorithm guys that are smart but shouldn't be coding. It's hard to assume from a persons background without much work to review but on the east coast I have met computer science engineers who some how don't know what a IP address is and couldn't throw together a html page but still get a junior C++ job. I have been obsessively reading and googling my whole life and always searching for industry standards, best practice, how low level code works and what's going on in the background - if the best we're doing it and using it then I wanted to know. I am now a dev working on just about every area for a large website and currently finishing up my first year in college...so far I can say college isn't enough. True passion and interest in your field will show in your work. Just watch some defcon vids and you'll see some amazing programmers and hackers from both sides.