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I reject the premise that Android phones are the same as PC's. You can add a lot of value to a smartphone that you cannot with a PC and most manufacturers have

I reject the premise that Android phones are the same as PC's. You can add a lot of value to a smartphone that you cannot with a PC and most manufacturers have not figured it out. Some ideas: AppleCare equivalent. To my knowledge, Android phone manufacturers still don't offer comprehensive accident protection. This is the main reason I stay with Apple products: I can buy this type of protection. Predictable and fast upgrade schedule. As is, carriers and manufacturers control the upgrade schedule. That still results in crazy delays in upgrades. No, upgrade the damn things ASAP. Make the phone waterproof. Not resistant, -proof. I want to use it at 100 ft below. Make it scratch resistant. Give it better battery life. Make it look/feel better than the competitors. Give it a better camera. I think the list can go on.

unicornporn 12y ago
> AppleCare equivalent. To my knowledge, Android phone manufacturers still don't offer comprehensive accident protection. This is the main reason I stay with Apple products: I can buy this type of protection. As a swede I can not for my life understand this sentiment. Over here AppleCare is a blatant ripoff that no wise person would buy. People gets an insurance that covers most/all aspects of life — not an insurance per product they buy.
- selectodude 12y ago
  I don't want my renters insurance premium to go up because I lost a $600 cell phone. I'd rather break that into two different policies.
rwallace 12y ago
Now I'm curious: what exactly is your use case for a phone at one hundred foot depth?
- jfb 12y ago
  Yeah, this is weird. The design trade offs you'd have to make would likely mean a phone that is largel unusable at the surface.
- IgorPartola 12y ago
  I want to make sure my phone still works after one of my kids dunks it in the toilet. Or tosses it the pool. 100 feet is definitely overkill, but I would rather have a rugged device than a delicate one.
  - rwallace 12y ago
    Fair enough. On the other hand, the percentage price increase it's worth paying for that, is perhaps on the order of the probability that your phone would otherwise die from that cause rather than some other. I suspect actually making a phone waterproof to a hundred feet (as opposed to just moderately water resistant) would cost more than it's worth paying.
    - IgorPartola 12y ago
      Not necessarily. I would pay somewhat more, simply for having more faith in the device. After all, a smartphone is the piece of electronics I use more often than any other throughout the day, and having one I enjoy using is worth it. Knowing that it's well engineered and won't let me down soon as I sit down and it slips out of my pants pocket onto the floor, or that my kid can't drown it, or my wife can't run over it with a car when I drop it in the driveway is a good feeling I'm willing to pay some amount of money for.

unicornporn 12y ago

> AppleCare equivalent. To my knowledge, Android phone manufacturers still don't offer comprehensive accident protection. This is the main reason I stay with Apple products: I can buy this type of protection. As a swede I can not for my life understand this sentiment. Over here AppleCare is a blatant ripoff that no wise person would buy. People gets an insurance that covers most/all aspects of life — not an insurance per product they buy.

selectodude 12y ago
I don't want my renters insurance premium to go up because I lost a $600 cell phone. I'd rather break that into two different policies.

rwallace 12y ago

Now I'm curious: what exactly is your use case for a phone at one hundred foot depth?

jfb 12y ago
Yeah, this is weird. The design trade offs you'd have to make would likely mean a phone that is largel unusable at the surface.
IgorPartola 12y ago
I want to make sure my phone still works after one of my kids dunks it in the toilet. Or tosses it the pool. 100 feet is definitely overkill, but I would rather have a rugged device than a delicate one.
- rwallace 12y ago
  Fair enough. On the other hand, the percentage price increase it's worth paying for that, is perhaps on the order of the probability that your phone would otherwise die from that cause rather than some other. I suspect actually making a phone waterproof to a hundred feet (as opposed to just moderately water resistant) would cost more than it's worth paying.
  - IgorPartola 12y ago
    Not necessarily. I would pay somewhat more, simply for having more faith in the device. After all, a smartphone is the piece of electronics I use more often than any other throughout the day, and having one I enjoy using is worth it. Knowing that it's well engineered and won't let me down soon as I sit down and it slips out of my pants pocket onto the floor, or that my kid can't drown it, or my wife can't run over it with a car when I drop it in the driveway is a good feeling I'm willing to pay some amount of money for.