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> completely baseless conclusion that the multiple files would be considered purely based on their file size You mean, like... > I meant can I send you a com

> completely baseless conclusion that the multiple files would be considered purely based on their file size You mean, like... > I meant can I send you a compressor and several compressed files whose total file size is less than the original uncompressed file and from which I can regenerate the original uncompressed file. (to which Mike agreed)?

eridius 12y ago
Since this is still a pedantry argument: Mike agreed that Patrick could send multiple files, but Mike never agreed that these files would be accepted as a winning submission. Furthermore, Mike never agreed that the filenames of the files would be considered to be meaningful data (without contributing to the filesize calculation).
- ghayes 12y ago
  > Mike agreed that Patrick could send multiple file, but Mike never agreed that these files would be accepted as a winning submission Then what is "agreeing"? These two sentences appear logically inconsistent.
  - eridius 12y ago
    Huh? Patrick asked if he could send multiple files. Mike said yes. Again, since the context of this is pedantic arguments, agreeing that Patrick could send multiple files is not the same as agreeing that Mike would consider the multiple files to be a winning submission.
    - kazinator 12y ago
      I have to logically agree with you. Indeed, Mike never issued a statement like, "I am amending the contest rules so that multiple files decoded by a single program are admitted as a valid solution." Only, this trickerly was not Mike's intent, otherwise, of course, he would have played this card immediately. For instance: "I said you could send that to me because that is a true statement with which I therefore agree. It is undeniably true that you can send me anything you like. You can send me an e-greeting card for my birthday, and you can send me a Britney Spears MP3 as a MIME attachment. You can send me questions asking about what you can send me. Obviously, though, the only material which you can send me which also happens to conform to the contest rules is a single program and a single data file. Please re-read the contest statement; I will gladly explain any portion of it that is not clear." Mike had no need to complain that the program isn't a decompressor. He should have played it as above. Instead, he demonstrated acceptance of the the multi-file structure of the solution by complaining that the algorithm in the program file isn't a form of compression.

eridius 12y ago

Since this is still a pedantry argument: Mike agreed that Patrick could send multiple files, but Mike never agreed that these files would be accepted as a winning submission. Furthermore, Mike never agreed that the filenames of the files would be considered to be meaningful data (without contributing to the filesize calculation).

ghayes 12y ago
> Mike agreed that Patrick could send multiple file, but Mike never agreed that these files would be accepted as a winning submission Then what is "agreeing"? These two sentences appear logically inconsistent.
- eridius 12y ago
  Huh? Patrick asked if he could send multiple files. Mike said yes. Again, since the context of this is pedantic arguments, agreeing that Patrick could send multiple files is not the same as agreeing that Mike would consider the multiple files to be a winning submission.
  - kazinator 12y ago
    I have to logically agree with you. Indeed, Mike never issued a statement like, "I am amending the contest rules so that multiple files decoded by a single program are admitted as a valid solution." Only, this trickerly was not Mike's intent, otherwise, of course, he would have played this card immediately. For instance: "I said you could send that to me because that is a true statement with which I therefore agree. It is undeniably true that you can send me anything you like. You can send me an e-greeting card for my birthday, and you can send me a Britney Spears MP3 as a MIME attachment. You can send me questions asking about what you can send me. Obviously, though, the only material which you can send me which also happens to conform to the contest rules is a single program and a single data file. Please re-read the contest statement; I will gladly explain any portion of it that is not clear." Mike had no need to complain that the program isn't a decompressor. He should have played it as above. Instead, he demonstrated acceptance of the the multi-file structure of the solution by complaining that the algorithm in the program file isn't a form of compression.