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If you actually read through it all, you'll see that she poured her drink on him after that ridiculous comment, then he reported her to HR for that. She got rep

If you actually read through it all, you'll see that she poured her drink on him after that ridiculous comment, then he reported her to HR for that. She got reprimanded, he got promoted. At least that is what is being alleged. Your comment is pretty insensitive in that context.

downandout 12y ago
>Your comment is pretty insensitive in that context. I'm not sure how. He made an an inexcusable comment to her. If she felt this strongly about it, she should have taken her drink with her to HR - immediately (or as soon as practical thereafter). She would have been in a much stronger position at that point. He acted inappropriately, and she responded inappropriately. My comment was not intended to deny the possibility of a hostile culture at Google. My point was that this incident, by itself, doesn't stand up as evidence of such a culture. Too many people read a single headline and interpret it as the rule, not the exception.
- googler98765 12y ago
  Members of HR do not come with us to team offsites. Maybe they should, but they wouldn't have been around then.
- lentil_soup 12y ago
  It's insensitive in that your are making a false balance fallacy by equating his actions with her reaction by saying something like "He acted inappropriately, and she responded inappropriately". She was sexually harrassed, her reaction is pretty minor in this discussion.
  - downandout 12y ago
    >her reaction is pretty minor in this discussion Let me be clear that I believe this guy to be a jackass - not only for making the comment, but then having the nerve to officially complain about the drink. I likely would have terminated him. But by reacting the way she did, she took away any leverage that she had, and that was reflected in the outcome. So, no, her reaction isn't "pretty minor in this discussion". It actually had a huge impact on the negative outcome.
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  - zo1 12y ago
    It's not minor, it's borderline assault. Whether you're offended or not, you don't get the right to go around assaulting people like that. Now, don't get me wrong, the guy was a dick, and it sounds like it was sexual harassment. And it should be dealt with swiftly by HR, but that should be the end of it.

downandout 12y ago

>Your comment is pretty insensitive in that context. I'm not sure how. He made an an inexcusable comment to her. If she felt this strongly about it, she should have taken her drink with her to HR - immediately (or as soon as practical thereafter). She would have been in a much stronger position at that point. He acted inappropriately, and she responded inappropriately. My comment was not intended to deny the possibility of a hostile culture at Google. My point was that this incident, by itself, doesn't stand up as evidence of such a culture. Too many people read a single headline and interpret it as the rule, not the exception.

googler98765 12y ago
Members of HR do not come with us to team offsites. Maybe they should, but they wouldn't have been around then.
lentil_soup 12y ago
It's insensitive in that your are making a false balance fallacy by equating his actions with her reaction by saying something like "He acted inappropriately, and she responded inappropriately". She was sexually harrassed, her reaction is pretty minor in this discussion.
- downandout 12y ago
  >her reaction is pretty minor in this discussion Let me be clear that I believe this guy to be a jackass - not only for making the comment, but then having the nerve to officially complain about the drink. I likely would have terminated him. But by reacting the way she did, she took away any leverage that she had, and that was reflected in the outcome. So, no, her reaction isn't "pretty minor in this discussion". It actually had a huge impact on the negative outcome.
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- zo1 12y ago
  It's not minor, it's borderline assault. Whether you're offended or not, you don't get the right to go around assaulting people like that. Now, don't get me wrong, the guy was a dick, and it sounds like it was sexual harassment. And it should be dealt with swiftly by HR, but that should be the end of it.