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Wow, I hadn't seen this, so thanks for the pointer. From the Esquire article[0]: > “The next day,” Hank said, “Adria Richards called my company asking them to

• kennywinker 12y ago
  I don't really see how this is a big revelation. If somebody publicly apologized to me for, say, driving drunk and hitting my car, but then went on to play up how they'd lost their job because of it I would call that a bad-faith apology. While I don't personally read "Hank"'s apology as "bad-faith", I can easily see how she might see it that way.
  • scintill76 12y ago
    Your analogy doesn't include contacting the drunk driver's former employer and asking them to ask him to change his apology. She can feel whatever she wants to about whether it was in good faith. But it feels a little underhanded to allegedly try to secretly get him to modify specific statements she doesn't like (possibly with intentional extra leverage by including the former employer.) I say secretly, because another option would be including the request to modify his comment in her own comment[0], and removing it from her own if he did. Yes, that would look silly and be easily discovered, which is probably why she allegedly tried to do it non-publicly. (To her credit, contacting the employer may have been just because it was the only means she had to privately contact him.) I wonder if she immediately saw the tidal wave coming for her when he posted he'd lost his job. If so, it's hard to blame her for trying almost anything to avoid it. Still, it fits into the original comment above, that this was a person deliberately trying to control a narrative to suit her agenda, that being transparent was less important. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5391667 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5391667
    • kennywinker 12y ago
      > Your analogy doesn't include contacting the drunk driver's former employer and asking them to ask him to change his apology. Sorry, I thought it was implied by the context that I believe that would be an appropriate way of responding to a "bad faith" public apology. > Still, it fits into the original comment above Sure, it fits. But there are plenty of other interpretations that fit the information. I'd propose that the reason this narrative is winning is that it's the one that challenges people the least, not because it's the one that fits the facts the best.
      • scintill76 12y ago
        Fair enough. I guess for me, reacting that way (trying to modify the apology) to a "bad faith" public apology wouldn't occur to me as an option, so I didn't realize they were directly connected for you. I agree there are multiple interpretations, mitigating factors, biased accounts, etc. I've already "picked sides" and I doubt much would change that. I don't know that there really is a way to "fit the facts", because all the "facts" we have are colored by two emotionally invested adversaries, probably both speaking from a calculated PR mindset. At this point they're both also speaking through journalists, who may be adding their own spin.
        • kennywinker 12y ago
          All I was objecting to was OP presenting the opinion that she was only concerned with "PR and a personal agenda" as a fact and not an opinion.