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Maybe companies need to just stop having retreats/events that have all the outward appearance of social gatherings but all the same professionalism rules as the
by A_COMPUTER 12y ago
Maybe companies need to just stop having retreats/events that have all the outward appearance of social gatherings but all the same professionalism rules as the officeplace except for the not wearing a swimsuit to work part.
- detcader 12y agoDo you believe that prohibition of sexual harassment is a "professionalism rule"? Because this would imply that in other areas of everyday life, where professionalism is not relevant, you believe that sexual harassment is/should be permitted.
- A_COMPUTER 12y agoI guess this needs explaining. An employee might sexually harass another employee, for which he or she should be punished. But a company can also be liable for creating conditions which allow sexual harassment to flourish. I am arguing that hosting events that blur the line between work and not-work contribute to sexual harassment. These things are not as black and white as some people on Hacker News think they are. Also, you're begging the question. Outside of a professional setting, telling someone they look good in a bikini being sexual harassment is HIGHLY dependent on context.
- detcader 12y agoDoes "telling someone they look good in a bikini" characterize the situation at hand? I really don't think so. I think it would be hard to categorize social events as potentially creating a bad environment or not. A different solution would be explicit rules for all social events, no? This would be easy to implement.
- A_COMPUTER 12y agoI used that example because it is the lower bounds (in terms of offensiveness) of the claims made by the complainant. She obviously felt it was a problem.
- JDiculous 12y agoNo, the question is as to what constitutes as "sexual harassment".