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This is why we need to raise domain registration rates. $20 or $30 should reduce speculation to the point where good names start flowing back into the system. T

This is why we need to raise domain registration rates. $20 or $30 should reduce speculation to the point where good names start flowing back into the system. The .com rates are way too cheap right now.

aruggirello 12y ago
Agreed. It's so annoying to see parked domains, yet it's so easy to setup parking with sedo and the likes. I once had a site, but didn't renew registration, and guess what? It's been "successfully parked" by somebody who saw "ludicrous opportunities" to raise a few cents/yr. Sometimes I thought to restore the site, which was very informative, but I couldn't, because it's deeply linked to the domain it was on, and that somebody wants a ridiculous sum to hand me back domain ownership; I would have been happy if only he had used the domain to provide some value instead of click bait. Lesson learned: never give up a domain, because it won't ever be free again. Instead, put it on sale.
- Amezarak 12y ago
  Yeah, it's absurd nowadays. For several years, me and a friend ran a reasonably popular website and associated forum. I paid for the hosting, he paid for the domain. He gradually became less and less active, but eventually he forgot to renew the registration. I tried every way I could think of to contact him, without avail. I tried calling GoDaddy, explained the situation, and told them I'd gladly pay for renewal and to consider it just a "donation" on his account. No dice. I asked them would it would be available for purchase, and they told me some day x days in the future. I figured well, this really sucks, but maybe I can just snap it up the second it goes live. To my shock and anger it was bought up by some kind of domain parking organization in (x - n) days. They told me sure, you can have the domain. For $800. Needless to say, not being able to afford that, I ended up buying a new domain and trying to contact all the community members, but the site has been basically dead ever since. As for the domain, they had a landing page with ads on it for a couple years. Now the domain is some kind of weird blog-spam.
marincounty 12y ago
I have wondered about that too, but I have a feeling companies with deep pockets would be more than happy to pay the higher price? The brokers would then just mark up their prices when they decide to sell to the little guys? I would like to change the way expired domains are reintroduced into the marketplace. It seems like the best expired domain names are kept by the domain registrar if the owner doesn't pay their bill? Why is Godaddy/generic domain registers allowed to buy expired domain names before the general public even sees them? (I might have got the process wrong? Please correct me if needed!) If anyone really know the process of buying an expired domain name--the actual steps; I would really like to know how the game works. The first question I have is this; I buy a premium name from Godaddy. I forget about the name and all the renew/reclaim dates? After ICANN determines it can go back on the market, why do the good names always seem to be bought by domain registrars before they hit a site like expireddomains.ooo? I heard it has something to do with Verisign, and domain brokers type companies that flood ICANN web servers with buy requests from multiple locations, but would like a detailed walk through. The process of snagging a good expired domain has been cloaked in secrecy for too long. p.s. I did a little research and I answered one of my questions. The question I asked was how Godaddy retains the best expired domian names? The answer is Domain Warehousing. "Domain name warehousing is the practice of registrars obtaining control of expired domain names already under their management, with the intent to hold or “warehouse” names for their own use and/or profit." This practice should be modified immediately! I don't understand why on earth they would be able to keep these names? One other thing, the cost ICANN charges Godaddy for the privilege of registering a domain name is approximately $7.00 and change. Every other dollar above the $7.42? is revenue.
- mrec 12y ago
  > The brokers would then just mark up their prices when they decide to sell to the little guys? Why would you think the brokers aren't already charging the absolute maximum that the little-guy market will bear? Because they're all such fundamentally decent people?
rtpg 12y ago
alternatively, just have a "use it or lose it" policy, where if nothing real is being done with the domain or you don't have an "intrinsic right" to it (say google should probably own google.co for various reasons), then someone else can just register it.
- kaybe 12y ago
  How would you judge 'real' and who would do it?
- simoncion 12y ago
  I have a domain whose only use is to provide me a pointer to my home IP address. Is this doing something real with this domain? If it is, how would one go about determining that I was even doing this? Or, do you intend to determine realness of use by the absence of blogspam and/or domain parking web pages at the domain in question?

aruggirello 12y ago

Agreed. It's so annoying to see parked domains, yet it's so easy to setup parking with sedo and the likes. I once had a site, but didn't renew registration, and guess what? It's been "successfully parked" by somebody who saw "ludicrous opportunities" to raise a few cents/yr. Sometimes I thought to restore the site, which was very informative, but I couldn't, because it's deeply linked to the domain it was on, and that somebody wants a ridiculous sum to hand me back domain ownership; I would have been happy if only he had used the domain to provide some value instead of click bait. Lesson learned: never give up a domain, because it won't ever be free again. Instead, put it on sale.

Amezarak 12y ago
Yeah, it's absurd nowadays. For several years, me and a friend ran a reasonably popular website and associated forum. I paid for the hosting, he paid for the domain. He gradually became less and less active, but eventually he forgot to renew the registration. I tried every way I could think of to contact him, without avail. I tried calling GoDaddy, explained the situation, and told them I'd gladly pay for renewal and to consider it just a "donation" on his account. No dice. I asked them would it would be available for purchase, and they told me some day x days in the future. I figured well, this really sucks, but maybe I can just snap it up the second it goes live. To my shock and anger it was bought up by some kind of domain parking organization in (x - n) days. They told me sure, you can have the domain. For $800. Needless to say, not being able to afford that, I ended up buying a new domain and trying to contact all the community members, but the site has been basically dead ever since. As for the domain, they had a landing page with ads on it for a couple years. Now the domain is some kind of weird blog-spam.

marincounty 12y ago

I have wondered about that too, but I have a feeling companies with deep pockets would be more than happy to pay the higher price? The brokers would then just mark up their prices when they decide to sell to the little guys? I would like to change the way expired domains are reintroduced into the marketplace. It seems like the best expired domain names are kept by the domain registrar if the owner doesn't pay their bill? Why is Godaddy/generic domain registers allowed to buy expired domain names before the general public even sees them? (I might have got the process wrong? Please correct me if needed!) If anyone really know the process of buying an expired domain name--the actual steps; I would really like to know how the game works. The first question I have is this; I buy a premium name from Godaddy. I forget about the name and all the renew/reclaim dates? After ICANN determines it can go back on the market, why do the good names always seem to be bought by domain registrars before they hit a site like expireddomains.ooo? I heard it has something to do with Verisign, and domain brokers type companies that flood ICANN web servers with buy requests from multiple locations, but would like a detailed walk through. The process of snagging a good expired domain has been cloaked in secrecy for too long. p.s. I did a little research and I answered one of my questions. The question I asked was how Godaddy retains the best expired domian names? The answer is Domain Warehousing. "Domain name warehousing is the practice of registrars obtaining control of expired domain names already under their management, with the intent to hold or “warehouse” names for their own use and/or profit." This practice should be modified immediately! I don't understand why on earth they would be able to keep these names? One other thing, the cost ICANN charges Godaddy for the privilege of registering a domain name is approximately $7.00 and change. Every other dollar above the $7.42? is revenue.

mrec 12y ago
> The brokers would then just mark up their prices when they decide to sell to the little guys? Why would you think the brokers aren't already charging the absolute maximum that the little-guy market will bear? Because they're all such fundamentally decent people?

rtpg 12y ago

alternatively, just have a "use it or lose it" policy, where if nothing real is being done with the domain or you don't have an "intrinsic right" to it (say google should probably own google.co for various reasons), then someone else can just register it.

kaybe 12y ago
How would you judge 'real' and who would do it?
simoncion 12y ago
I have a domain whose only use is to provide me a pointer to my home IP address. Is this doing something real with this domain? If it is, how would one go about determining that I was even doing this? Or, do you intend to determine realness of use by the absence of blogspam and/or domain parking web pages at the domain in question?