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Meta: This Bloomberg site is unique or, at least, among a tiny set of sites that has a fixed top banner and manages to page down/page up correctly. I spent se

Meta: This Bloomberg site is unique or, at least, among a tiny set of sites that has a fixed top banner and manages to page down/page up correctly. I spent several minutes just appreciating their implementation with my keyboard. Both page down and space bar work correctly and the progress marker in the header is nifty.

wwweston 12y ago
> Both page down and space bar work correctly and the progress marker in the header is nifty. Truly, we live in the future. :/ (I also think it's remarkable how many sites seem willing to sacrifice basic usability concerns like page down & spacebar... and even scrolling performance is often put farther down the list than having the design fad of a fixed header that changes in dimensions/character a bit past a certain point.)
tedunangst 12y ago
Good, but not great. My browser seizes up briefly when loading a new section of infinity scroll, and the infinity scroll definitely breaks the scrollbar. I scroll to the middle, no, wait, now I'm at the top, I scroll to bottom, now I'm reading something else entirely, no, wait, now I'm in the middle of the page again, no wait, different article again.
mattmanser 12y ago
I personally find the progress bar very distracting and don't read Bloomberg articles any more because of it. It's something to do with me always using mouse scrolling that jerks the screen by set increments, and that then animates the bar but it takes 250 ms or something, so I scroll, my eyes attempt to find the new position in the article, the bar animates, my eye gets drawn up to the bar instead. It's so bad for me I find myself angry and frustrated whenever I read a Bloomberg article and it took me a while to realise it was something as simple and silly as a visuay distracting automated progress bar that is just a bit too slow to animate.
- mattmanser 12y ago
  Say how I personally feel, get downvoted. HN on Saturdays.
- kevin_thibedeau 12y ago
  I didn't know they had a fixed header. pats NoScript on the head.
dredmorbius 12y ago
I've already got a progress bar. It's called the browser scrollbar. A fixed header is one of the first things I remove from a site, usually taking it as an opportunity to remove everything else I find annoying as well. Turns out Bloomberg's header requires JS to be enabled (I disabled it). But nope. Don't like the fixed header. It's like having a hat pulled down low over my eyes. In the damned way.
colomon 12y ago
Huh? The Bloomberg site is the one I read most often that gets it completely wrong, at least on my browser (Chrome OS X). If I page up or down, it doesn't factor in the size of the fixed banner properly and I always lose visibility of several lines of text. If I take "History is written by the victors, and that's especially true in the technology industry. Here are six other founders who didn't get any official recognition when their companies went public.", line things up so just the first line is visible at the bottom, and hit page down, I lose the rest of the paragraph every time.

wwweston 12y ago

> Both page down and space bar work correctly and the progress marker in the header is nifty. Truly, we live in the future. :/ (I also think it's remarkable how many sites seem willing to sacrifice basic usability concerns like page down & spacebar... and even scrolling performance is often put farther down the list than having the design fad of a fixed header that changes in dimensions/character a bit past a certain point.)

tedunangst 12y ago

Good, but not great. My browser seizes up briefly when loading a new section of infinity scroll, and the infinity scroll definitely breaks the scrollbar. I scroll to the middle, no, wait, now I'm at the top, I scroll to bottom, now I'm reading something else entirely, no, wait, now I'm in the middle of the page again, no wait, different article again.

mattmanser 12y ago

I personally find the progress bar very distracting and don't read Bloomberg articles any more because of it. It's something to do with me always using mouse scrolling that jerks the screen by set increments, and that then animates the bar but it takes 250 ms or something, so I scroll, my eyes attempt to find the new position in the article, the bar animates, my eye gets drawn up to the bar instead. It's so bad for me I find myself angry and frustrated whenever I read a Bloomberg article and it took me a while to realise it was something as simple and silly as a visuay distracting automated progress bar that is just a bit too slow to animate.

mattmanser 12y ago
Say how I personally feel, get downvoted. HN on Saturdays.
kevin_thibedeau 12y ago
I didn't know they had a fixed header. pats NoScript on the head.

dredmorbius 12y ago

I've already got a progress bar. It's called the browser scrollbar. A fixed header is one of the first things I remove from a site, usually taking it as an opportunity to remove everything else I find annoying as well. Turns out Bloomberg's header requires JS to be enabled (I disabled it). But nope. Don't like the fixed header. It's like having a hat pulled down low over my eyes. In the damned way.

colomon 12y ago

Huh? The Bloomberg site is the one I read most often that gets it completely wrong, at least on my browser (Chrome OS X). If I page up or down, it doesn't factor in the size of the fixed banner properly and I always lose visibility of several lines of text. If I take "History is written by the victors, and that's especially true in the technology industry. Here are six other founders who didn't get any official recognition when their companies went public.", line things up so just the first line is visible at the bottom, and hit page down, I lose the rest of the paragraph every time.