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I gave Vivaldi a go because I wanted to speed up the testing of a website 'logged in' (with Chrome) and 'not logged in' (with Vivaldi). Vivaldi was notionally p

I gave Vivaldi a go because I wanted to speed up the testing of a website 'logged in' (with Chrome) and 'not logged in' (with Vivaldi). Vivaldi was notionally perfect for that with the same F12 tools as Chrome. I could delete session cookies and do my testing with it, no learning required. So I would say I have given it a fair shot. But what browser am I using now? Chrome. Sometimes when you want to get something done you don't need to find that the maximise/minimise buttons are somewhere different, and with Ubuntu/Unity + Vivaldi they are - 90's style, in the top-right hand side. I was actually a late convert to Chrome, for a long time I 'needed' Firebug and found the Chrome F12 tools to be inferior, or with a learning hurdle. With Vivaldi there is no leap of re-learning required, but, it doesn't have anything extra that I need for the day job. A regular incognito window does all I need for testing, with the UX chrome in the expected places. Note I also have the indispensable 'Hover Zoom' and 'Vim bindings'.

byte1918 12y ago
I really, really, really want to like Firebug/Firefox but it's just impossible for me. I already tried to switch 2 times this year. Once with the FFDev and once with v36 (stable) - both times I was left just as disappointed. I open the developer tools and refresh a SharePoint page and the browser hangs for close to 1 minute - this is just unacceptable. Even IE doesn't have this hiccups. I know this isn't common and is only reproducible on v36 for me but it's a huge PIA. Other than this, I'm curious why do you say the chrome developer tools are inferior? I haven't used firebug in a while but AFAIK Chrome Dev Tools has most of it's features and since it's "native" it's smother and faster.
- michaelbuddy 12y ago
  Try it while not logged into SharePoint. My experience when SharePoint is logged its not exactly lean.
deaddodo 12y ago
> I gave Vivaldi a go because I wanted to speed up the testing of a website 'logged in' (with Chrome) and 'not logged in' (with Vivaldi) Most people just use incognito mode for that.

byte1918 12y ago

I really, really, really want to like Firebug/Firefox but it's just impossible for me. I already tried to switch 2 times this year. Once with the FFDev and once with v36 (stable) - both times I was left just as disappointed. I open the developer tools and refresh a SharePoint page and the browser hangs for close to 1 minute - this is just unacceptable. Even IE doesn't have this hiccups. I know this isn't common and is only reproducible on v36 for me but it's a huge PIA. Other than this, I'm curious why do you say the chrome developer tools are inferior? I haven't used firebug in a while but AFAIK Chrome Dev Tools has most of it's features and since it's "native" it's smother and faster.

michaelbuddy 12y ago
Try it while not logged into SharePoint. My experience when SharePoint is logged its not exactly lean.

deaddodo 12y ago

> I gave Vivaldi a go because I wanted to speed up the testing of a website 'logged in' (with Chrome) and 'not logged in' (with Vivaldi) Most people just use incognito mode for that.