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> nature has its own "garbage collector." Ah, no, it doesn't. If you think "survival of the fittest" will somehow magically cull non-functional, non-deleteriou

> nature has its own "garbage collector." Ah, no, it doesn't. If you think "survival of the fittest" will somehow magically cull non-functional, non-deleterious DNA out of the genome (except by accident), then you don't understand evolution. It's kind of hypocritical to call others "arrogant" when you're opining on a topic you clearly don't grasp yourself.

nashashmi 12y ago
Nope. Not being hypocrite here. DNA that is not needed will wither away. And I do understand evolution. Quite well actually simply because I have debated it far more rationally than those who have outright rejected it and those who have unquestionably accepted it. And there happen to be a lot few mysteries with my explanation. Think of DNA as computer code. Think of each creature as a robot with computer code built in. Now think of DNA as also having the code to recreate the creature. Overloaded DNA will collapse. Or incredibly sophisticated biology will be able to handle overloaded DNA. Either way, too much complexity breaks. You may call it "Survival of the fittest" implying chaos theory but I call it harmonious morphology implying benign force.
- taco_emoji 12y ago
  > DNA that is not needed will wither away. You are 100% wrong about this. DNA that is not needed does not "wither" away. If it's benign, it'll most likely stick around. > Overloaded DNA will collapse. This sentence doesn't make any sense. How do you "overload" DNA? What does "collapsing" look like? > Either way, too much complexity breaks. What is "complexity"? Can you measure it? How much is too much? What "breaks", and how? > You may call it "Survival of the fittest" implying chaos theory What does chaos theory (roughly, the idea that small changes in initial conditions have dramatic effects) have to do with anything we're discussing? > but I call it harmonious morphology... Please define "harmonious" and describe how to measure it. > ...implying benign force I suspect you started with benign force and worked your way backwards, ignoring any inconvenient evidence.
  - nashashmi 12y ago
    > You are 100% wrong about this. DNA that is not needed does not "wither" away. If it's benign, it'll most likely stick around. Why would it stick around if it is not needed? Why wouldn't it be free to morph if it did not matter? Why wouldn't it change if it did not affect the being? Evidence exists that DNA changes due to stresses in environments, so hereditary (e.g. the parent has it, so the child must) is not sufficient to explain why garbage DNA is still transferring over generations later. > This sentence doesn't make any sense. How do you "overload" DNA? What does "collapsing" look like? > What is "complexity"? If a creation of an object relies solely on DNA, then there must be some sort of ignore protocol built into the creation factory for the DNA part that is meaningless. Overloaded DNA has excessive meaningless data. An enormous amount of complexity would be required within the creation factory to handle this overload. > Chaos theory ... The idea that random changes occur and the only changes that survive are the ones that can still adapt to their environment despite or in spite of the change. > Please define "harmonious? Harmonious would mean the very stable and smooth transitions of creatures to change from one to another without there being some sort of "noise" e.g. rapid fluctuations in genes. If creatures can transition uniformly to another creature, why not several different creatures across several different environments (sort of like man-made innovations in isolated environments). Failures and successes would both appear on graphs. > how to measure harmonious? how to measure complexity? Measuring harmonious is akin to measuring cold energy. You cannot measure something that does not exist, but instead you measure it by the lack of its opposite. (you measure cold by the lack of heat). Complexity is only apparent when things break. If you don't see things breaking, you cannot witness complexity. > you started with benign force and worked your way backwards, ignoring any inconvenient evidence. Actually, its the other way around. A researcher must constantly battle the concept of unknown/benign/hidden/dark energy/force/matter to figure out why things work the way they do. A researcher is always digging, always denying, the concept of an unknown force, in finality to achieve the phrase "That's how!" I call it peace at a certain point. But for a person with an agenda, the inconvenient fact may be that there is an unknown force. Sometimes, these things are cloaked as laws of physics, that some events other than this event just cannot happen. Other times, they are called theories, until they are met with an enigma, where then it is broken.
    - 12y ago

nashashmi 12y ago

Nope. Not being hypocrite here. DNA that is not needed will wither away. And I do understand evolution. Quite well actually simply because I have debated it far more rationally than those who have outright rejected it and those who have unquestionably accepted it. And there happen to be a lot few mysteries with my explanation. Think of DNA as computer code. Think of each creature as a robot with computer code built in. Now think of DNA as also having the code to recreate the creature. Overloaded DNA will collapse. Or incredibly sophisticated biology will be able to handle overloaded DNA. Either way, too much complexity breaks. You may call it "Survival of the fittest" implying chaos theory but I call it harmonious morphology implying benign force.

taco_emoji 12y ago
> DNA that is not needed will wither away. You are 100% wrong about this. DNA that is not needed does not "wither" away. If it's benign, it'll most likely stick around. > Overloaded DNA will collapse. This sentence doesn't make any sense. How do you "overload" DNA? What does "collapsing" look like? > Either way, too much complexity breaks. What is "complexity"? Can you measure it? How much is too much? What "breaks", and how? > You may call it "Survival of the fittest" implying chaos theory What does chaos theory (roughly, the idea that small changes in initial conditions have dramatic effects) have to do with anything we're discussing? > but I call it harmonious morphology... Please define "harmonious" and describe how to measure it. > ...implying benign force I suspect you started with benign force and worked your way backwards, ignoring any inconvenient evidence.
- nashashmi 12y ago
  > You are 100% wrong about this. DNA that is not needed does not "wither" away. If it's benign, it'll most likely stick around. Why would it stick around if it is not needed? Why wouldn't it be free to morph if it did not matter? Why wouldn't it change if it did not affect the being? Evidence exists that DNA changes due to stresses in environments, so hereditary (e.g. the parent has it, so the child must) is not sufficient to explain why garbage DNA is still transferring over generations later. > This sentence doesn't make any sense. How do you "overload" DNA? What does "collapsing" look like? > What is "complexity"? If a creation of an object relies solely on DNA, then there must be some sort of ignore protocol built into the creation factory for the DNA part that is meaningless. Overloaded DNA has excessive meaningless data. An enormous amount of complexity would be required within the creation factory to handle this overload. > Chaos theory ... The idea that random changes occur and the only changes that survive are the ones that can still adapt to their environment despite or in spite of the change. > Please define "harmonious? Harmonious would mean the very stable and smooth transitions of creatures to change from one to another without there being some sort of "noise" e.g. rapid fluctuations in genes. If creatures can transition uniformly to another creature, why not several different creatures across several different environments (sort of like man-made innovations in isolated environments). Failures and successes would both appear on graphs. > how to measure harmonious? how to measure complexity? Measuring harmonious is akin to measuring cold energy. You cannot measure something that does not exist, but instead you measure it by the lack of its opposite. (you measure cold by the lack of heat). Complexity is only apparent when things break. If you don't see things breaking, you cannot witness complexity. > you started with benign force and worked your way backwards, ignoring any inconvenient evidence. Actually, its the other way around. A researcher must constantly battle the concept of unknown/benign/hidden/dark energy/force/matter to figure out why things work the way they do. A researcher is always digging, always denying, the concept of an unknown force, in finality to achieve the phrase "That's how!" I call it peace at a certain point. But for a person with an agenda, the inconvenient fact may be that there is an unknown force. Sometimes, these things are cloaked as laws of physics, that some events other than this event just cannot happen. Other times, they are called theories, until they are met with an enigma, where then it is broken.
  - 12y ago