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I can't resist reminding you that 1 command from a sysadmin routing traffic to the wrong network was the cause of the last major outage there :) They are getti

I can't resist reminding you that 1 command from a sysadmin routing traffic to the wrong network was the cause of the last major outage there :) They are getting much better, as all providers are. They're still just not a fit for many people because of performance requirements that are either impossible or too costly to meet on that type of infrastructure. I've always said this: the cloud isn't a good fit for us; do what works for you.

duggan 12y ago
> I can't resist reminding you that 1 command from a sysadmin routing traffic to the wrong network was the cause of the last major outage there :) If you're going to bring that up, I can't resist reminding you of that time you had poor sysadmins running up and down stairs with buckets of fuel to keep your servers running[1]. > I've always said this: the cloud isn't a good fit for us; do what works for you. There are costs. Frankly, it appears Stack Exchange prefers to lay those on its people rather than its purse. [1]: http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2012/11/se-podcast-36-we-got-hit-by-a-hurricane/ http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2012/11/se-podcast-36-we-got-h...
- KyleBrandt 12y ago
  That wasn't stack exchange. We failed over to our secondary data center during sandy.
- Nick-Craver 12y ago
  As Kyle says, we were helping our sister company Fog Creek keep their servers online (as well as other people in that facility like Squarespace) because we cared. Our traffic was not being served from that data center and in fact we shut down most of our servers during that to conserve generator fuel. Our traffic was flowing just fine from Oregon. A decision Kyle and I made the night before when concluding they would probably shut down power to lower manhattan in preparation for flooding. When your neighbor's house is on fire you don't argue over the price of the hose. You help. Our remote people that couldn't come help in person also helped them replicate their entire network in AWS as a backup plan. I don't usually post pissed off comments, but you're dead wrong here and intetionally or not demeaning a good company and good people whom, because they cared, came to help in a time of emergency. I take it you weren't in New York during Sandy; it looked like a post-apocalyptic war zone afterwards. TL;DR - You don't know what you're talking about.
  - vacri 12y ago
    intetionally or not demeaning a good company It's sad that you can't handle a snarky comment (right or wrong) that was given in response to your own snarky comment. If you can't handle being poked and it pisses you off, don't poke others. Also, you seem particularly offended that your altruism is being maligned, when you're also complaining that the GP was unaware that the action was altruistic in the first place (???).
    - mentat 12y ago
      His comment wasn't snarky in the first place, it was pointing out that mistakes scale too. The response was totally inappropriate.
      - vacri 12y ago
        I'm finding it hard to contrive a debating situation where "I can't resist reminding you..." isn't snarky.

duggan 12y ago

> I can't resist reminding you that 1 command from a sysadmin routing traffic to the wrong network was the cause of the last major outage there :) If you're going to bring that up, I can't resist reminding you of that time you had poor sysadmins running up and down stairs with buckets of fuel to keep your servers running[1]. > I've always said this: the cloud isn't a good fit for us; do what works for you. There are costs. Frankly, it appears Stack Exchange prefers to lay those on its people rather than its purse. [1]: http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2012/11/se-podcast-36-we-got-hit-by-a-hurricane/ http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2012/11/se-podcast-36-we-got-h...

KyleBrandt 12y ago
That wasn't stack exchange. We failed over to our secondary data center during sandy.
Nick-Craver 12y ago
As Kyle says, we were helping our sister company Fog Creek keep their servers online (as well as other people in that facility like Squarespace) because we cared. Our traffic was not being served from that data center and in fact we shut down most of our servers during that to conserve generator fuel. Our traffic was flowing just fine from Oregon. A decision Kyle and I made the night before when concluding they would probably shut down power to lower manhattan in preparation for flooding. When your neighbor's house is on fire you don't argue over the price of the hose. You help. Our remote people that couldn't come help in person also helped them replicate their entire network in AWS as a backup plan. I don't usually post pissed off comments, but you're dead wrong here and intetionally or not demeaning a good company and good people whom, because they cared, came to help in a time of emergency. I take it you weren't in New York during Sandy; it looked like a post-apocalyptic war zone afterwards. TL;DR - You don't know what you're talking about.
- vacri 12y ago
  intetionally or not demeaning a good company It's sad that you can't handle a snarky comment (right or wrong) that was given in response to your own snarky comment. If you can't handle being poked and it pisses you off, don't poke others. Also, you seem particularly offended that your altruism is being maligned, when you're also complaining that the GP was unaware that the action was altruistic in the first place (???).
  - mentat 12y ago
    His comment wasn't snarky in the first place, it was pointing out that mistakes scale too. The response was totally inappropriate.
    - vacri 12y ago
      I'm finding it hard to contrive a debating situation where "I can't resist reminding you..." isn't snarky.