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That's a bit over the top. Mail chimp is hugely valuable if you are in their target user base. And for non-technical clients, mail chimp is (imo) a massive step

by _neil 12y ago

That's a bit over the top. Mail chimp is hugely valuable if you are in their target user base. And for non-technical clients, mail chimp is (imo) a massive step up from other mailing list providers.

bhouston 12y ago
If you have 100,000 users (which we have), MailChimp is really expensive. Details: http://mailchimp.com/pricing/high-volume/ http://mailchimp.com/pricing/high-volume/ Mailchimp is thus $475.00 per 100K per month ($5700 per year!) That is a lot to spend on just email. With Sendy + SES it costs me $10 to do a send to our 100,000 users. Now I could play around with switching plans all the time at MailChimp to try and always minimize my costs, but I don't want to play that game. SES + Sendy keeps my costs linear with the number of emails I send, I don't have to play any games with changing plans, and it is significantly cheaper that MailChimp.
- robbiemitchell 12y ago
  If I'm reading the FAQ correct, SES maxes out at 10k emails/day, meaning it'll take you 10 days to email your entire list.
  - bhouston 12y ago
    http://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/request-production-access.html http://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/request... http://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/manage-sending-limits.html http://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/manage-...
  - neudabei 12y ago
    That's just in the beginning. As your volume increases and your stats are ok (low bounces and complaints) you can ask for a quota increase (+ speed increase) which is usually granted. It'll take a few days until you are up and running with a bigger list.
- zippergz 12y ago
  Clearly it depends on your business and how you measure the value. I've worked for companies that spent over $5k/mo on Mailchimp and thought it quite worth it.
  - mooreds 12y ago
    Right. How much is it to have someone on staff (or available for calling up in an emergency) who knows how to configure mail servers? Far more than 5k/month.
    - eropple 12y ago
      If that's their only job, sure. I know mail servers. I also know the rest of our stack, and that's my primary job. Or, as noted throughout this thread, just use SES (or Mandrill if SES's deliverability scares you, but IMO it shouldn't).

by _neil 12y ago

That's a bit over the top. Mail chimp is hugely valuable if you are in their target user base. And for non-technical clients, mail chimp is (imo) a massive step up from other mailing list providers.

bhouston 12y ago

If you have 100,000 users (which we have), MailChimp is really expensive. Details: http://mailchimp.com/pricing/high-volume/ http://mailchimp.com/pricing/high-volume/ Mailchimp is thus $475.00 per 100K per month ($5700 per year!) That is a lot to spend on just email. With Sendy + SES it costs me $10 to do a send to our 100,000 users. Now I could play around with switching plans all the time at MailChimp to try and always minimize my costs, but I don't want to play that game. SES + Sendy keeps my costs linear with the number of emails I send, I don't have to play any games with changing plans, and it is significantly cheaper that MailChimp.

robbiemitchell 12y ago
If I'm reading the FAQ correct, SES maxes out at 10k emails/day, meaning it'll take you 10 days to email your entire list.
- bhouston 12y ago
  http://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/request-production-access.html http://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/request... http://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/manage-sending-limits.html http://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/manage-...
- neudabei 12y ago
  That's just in the beginning. As your volume increases and your stats are ok (low bounces and complaints) you can ask for a quota increase (+ speed increase) which is usually granted. It'll take a few days until you are up and running with a bigger list.
zippergz 12y ago
Clearly it depends on your business and how you measure the value. I've worked for companies that spent over $5k/mo on Mailchimp and thought it quite worth it.
- mooreds 12y ago
  Right. How much is it to have someone on staff (or available for calling up in an emergency) who knows how to configure mail servers? Far more than 5k/month.
  - eropple 12y ago
    If that's their only job, sure. I know mail servers. I also know the rest of our stack, and that's my primary job. Or, as noted throughout this thread, just use SES (or Mandrill if SES's deliverability scares you, but IMO it shouldn't).