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The thing is - we already have the Facebook (or twitter etc) single login option. However the are plenty of articles that say this form of sign up is not neces

The thing is - we already have the Facebook (or twitter etc) single login option. However the are plenty of articles that say this form of sign up is not necessarily effective.[1] For this idea to take off - you need to assume the reason for the current lack of uptake is that users dont trust the 3rd party with the Facebook data. However I personally believe, and would have thought, that most people dont trust Facebook with the linked data, since they are learning more about you? [1] http://blog.mailchimp.com/social-login-buttons-arent-worth-it/ http://blog.mailchimp.com/social-login-buttons-arent-worth-i...

ryandvm 12y ago
The problem with the existing Facebook single login is that it gives the user another, somewhat daunting, screen that says "Are you sure you want to give this app access to your contacts, email, identity, etc.?" I'm sure Facebook has found that a large percentage of users bail out of new signups at that screen. And frankly, the user should be bailing out there. Regardless of Facebook's sketchy policy changes, they have demonstrated that they will at least do what they promised with my personal data, but there's no reason that I should a new app/service the same level of trust. With "Anonymous Login" users don't have to worry that the app will be able to do nefarious things with their Facebook data.
- tracker1 12y ago
  That's the website asking for that information... A website could simply ask for no special permissions. I've hit a few sites that I've signed in with github or google that haven't asked for intrusive permissions. I don't think it's really all that different.
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  - yasth 12y ago
    Think of this as a special case (and even more limited) version of that, but with special reassuring text from facebook.
  - nucleardog 12y ago
    Facebook automatically includes "basic profile information and friends list" for any login. There is no way to request any less. A website asking for a friends list with no clear use case sounds suspicious.
simonw 12y ago
You say there are "plenty of articles", but that MailChimp one is the only one I ever see cited. Do you have any other good examples?
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- jamiequint 12y ago
  Based on my experience working with a number of companies (n > 15) on onboarding flows, Email + Facebook signup (on the same form) is the most effective. This is trailed only slightly by offering only email signup. Most companies that offer Email + Facebook (on the same form) see a 70/30 split favoring email. I don't understand why any developer would use FB anonymous login when you can just use email which is equally as effective.
jon-wood 12y ago
> However I personally believe, and would have thought, that most people dont trust Facebook with the linked data, since they are learning more about you? I think most people in the real world, outside our cozy tech bubble, trust Facebook pretty deeply. They give them their thoughts, their photos, their schedule, and their private messages to people. I'm not sure their really that concerned about Facebook also knowing that they signed into Candy Crush Saga XIV

ryandvm 12y ago

The problem with the existing Facebook single login is that it gives the user another, somewhat daunting, screen that says "Are you sure you want to give this app access to your contacts, email, identity, etc.?" I'm sure Facebook has found that a large percentage of users bail out of new signups at that screen. And frankly, the user should be bailing out there. Regardless of Facebook's sketchy policy changes, they have demonstrated that they will at least do what they promised with my personal data, but there's no reason that I should a new app/service the same level of trust. With "Anonymous Login" users don't have to worry that the app will be able to do nefarious things with their Facebook data.

tracker1 12y ago
That's the website asking for that information... A website could simply ask for no special permissions. I've hit a few sites that I've signed in with github or google that haven't asked for intrusive permissions. I don't think it's really all that different.
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- yasth 12y ago
  Think of this as a special case (and even more limited) version of that, but with special reassuring text from facebook.
- nucleardog 12y ago
  Facebook automatically includes "basic profile information and friends list" for any login. There is no way to request any less. A website asking for a friends list with no clear use case sounds suspicious.

simonw 12y ago

You say there are "plenty of articles", but that MailChimp one is the only one I ever see cited. Do you have any other good examples?

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jamiequint 12y ago
Based on my experience working with a number of companies (n > 15) on onboarding flows, Email + Facebook signup (on the same form) is the most effective. This is trailed only slightly by offering only email signup. Most companies that offer Email + Facebook (on the same form) see a 70/30 split favoring email. I don't understand why any developer would use FB anonymous login when you can just use email which is equally as effective.

jon-wood 12y ago

> However I personally believe, and would have thought, that most people dont trust Facebook with the linked data, since they are learning more about you? I think most people in the real world, outside our cozy tech bubble, trust Facebook pretty deeply. They give them their thoughts, their photos, their schedule, and their private messages to people. I'm not sure their really that concerned about Facebook also knowing that they signed into Candy Crush Saga XIV