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> the results summarized in this post don't seem very interesting There are ongoing debates around the degree to which obesity is a roll of the dice or not. E
by rodgerd 12y ago
> the results summarized in this post don't seem very interesting
There are ongoing debates around the degree to which obesity is a roll of the dice or not. Especially with the rise of Fat Acceptance-style lobby groups there is increasing pressure (alongside existing industrial sugar sellers like drink makers) to push back on the idea that a variety of health problems are obesity-related, or to tell people they need to change exercise/dietary habits.
In a way, it's quite impressive. They're doing much better than the pro-smoking lobby ever did, but it's also rather depressing from a public policy point of view.
As a corollary it's worth noting that if e.g. your workplace demands you work hours that effectively preclude you eating and exercising well there are substantial costs, not just for you, but for society more broadly.
- PhasmaFelis 12y agoThere needs to be a distinction between recognizing that obesity is a serious health problem, and pushing back against people who don't actually care about public health but need a socially acceptable excuse to bully unattractive people. That's what Fat Acceptance is fundamentally about. There's no subreddit exclusively for shitting on people who smoke or have bad posture. Nobody assumes that being dangerously underweight or not eating enough greens means that you're fundamentally lazy and lacking in willpower.
- lurknomore 12y agoHorseshit. A central tenet of Fat Acceptance is the denial of the medical consequences of obesity, the "Health At Every Size" movement being the most notable example. ("Size" here being a euphemism for "level of obesity," because they sure aren't talking about height.) And if you think it is truly socially acceptable to "bully" fat people (which is what you really mean by saying "unattractive" people), just try it sometime and see what happens to you. While there is no /r/peoplewhosmokehate subreddit, there sure as hell are heavy taxes on cigarettes, increased health insurance premiums for smokers, and no-smoking policies in pretty much every inhabitable space. We make those fuckers stand outside in the cold or in little glass huts to partake of their stupid habit. Would that we would gather some spine as a nation and do the same to fatties!
- PhasmaFelis 12y agoHeh. A brand-new account and all your posts are complaining about trigger warnings and fat people? The key to a good troll is subtlety. Try harder next time.
- TazeTSchnitzel 12y agoI wonder if they have joined as part of some sort of reddit brigade.
- TazeTSchnitzel 12y agoIt is socially acceptable to mock fat people. Not in all contexts, sure, but it happens and is a frequent subject of 'jokes'. Fat people face constant harassment over their body image (no wonder they're depressed).
- agumonkey 12y agoSo there are people harassing non slim persons by pretending that they are unhealthy, giving them seemingly rational rope to pressure them into losing weight ? It feels a lot like anti gay marriage people conceptualization about family to justify subconscious anger. That said I'm not sure it's really acceptable, to a certain extent you can mock someone in his back, but I've never seen someone indifferent to someone bullying another one for his/her weight.