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Whats your point here, motivation is necessary to realize benefits from training? And the absence causes body fat to accumulate?

bsder 12y ago
Actually, yes. There have been several studies that seem to point towards significantly less benefit from exercise when people don't enjoy it. Obviously, this is really hard to control for since those who enjoy exercise less are less likely to do it, push themselves, etc. That's not to say that exercise doesn't help at all, but since many of us are concerned about efficiency of exercise that's an important finding.
- sliverstorm 12y ago
  Another key one would be, less likely to do it well... The more I learn about exercise & fitness, the more I discover it is a learned skill. For a simple example, despite the fact that my push-ups looked ok, I was in fact doing them terribly wrong all my life which meant they did absolutely nothing to strengthen my pectorals. You might think something as simple as a push-up would be hard to do wrong...
- lurknomore 12y ago
  Intensity matters. Improvement is gained via progressive overload. Showing up but half-assing it is a great way to not make progress and inevitably come to resent the activity (minimal benefits for the time & work involved), thus perpetuating a vicious cycle.
Udik 12y ago
Sorry, maybe wasn't very clear. What I meant is that they picked couples of twins which both used to exercise regularly - that seems to be a good indicator of the fact they felt a need for it and got a reward from it. They also hint at the fact that it was difficult to find a couple of twins in which one of the two had stopped exercising, and they say that this is usually in response to a pressure of some kind, or in other words, it is a forced behaviour. So in the end they're comparing somebody who apparently feels the need to exercise, with an identical twin who feels the same need but can't anymore. So, bottom line(s): 1) they'not simply comparing one that exercises with one that does not. They're comparing someone who needs exercising with someone who has the same need but can't anymore. But they would be wrong in assuming that everybody needs exercising as much as these twins do. 2) again, they're comparing couples of twins in which one keeps doing what he likes, so he's probably more happy and fulfilled, with another one who can't anymore, so is probably more stressed. Would the same work for golfing, singing or painting?

bsder 12y ago

Actually, yes. There have been several studies that seem to point towards significantly less benefit from exercise when people don't enjoy it. Obviously, this is really hard to control for since those who enjoy exercise less are less likely to do it, push themselves, etc. That's not to say that exercise doesn't help at all, but since many of us are concerned about efficiency of exercise that's an important finding.

sliverstorm 12y ago
Another key one would be, less likely to do it well... The more I learn about exercise & fitness, the more I discover it is a learned skill. For a simple example, despite the fact that my push-ups looked ok, I was in fact doing them terribly wrong all my life which meant they did absolutely nothing to strengthen my pectorals. You might think something as simple as a push-up would be hard to do wrong...
lurknomore 12y ago
Intensity matters. Improvement is gained via progressive overload. Showing up but half-assing it is a great way to not make progress and inevitably come to resent the activity (minimal benefits for the time & work involved), thus perpetuating a vicious cycle.

Udik 12y ago

Sorry, maybe wasn't very clear. What I meant is that they picked couples of twins which both used to exercise regularly - that seems to be a good indicator of the fact they felt a need for it and got a reward from it. They also hint at the fact that it was difficult to find a couple of twins in which one of the two had stopped exercising, and they say that this is usually in response to a pressure of some kind, or in other words, it is a forced behaviour. So in the end they're comparing somebody who apparently feels the need to exercise, with an identical twin who feels the same need but can't anymore. So, bottom line(s): 1) they'not simply comparing one that exercises with one that does not. They're comparing someone who needs exercising with someone who has the same need but can't anymore. But they would be wrong in assuming that everybody needs exercising as much as these twins do. 2) again, they're comparing couples of twins in which one keeps doing what he likes, so he's probably more happy and fulfilled, with another one who can't anymore, so is probably more stressed. Would the same work for golfing, singing or painting?