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Why do you think General Petraeus just pleaded guilty in court? because of "rules" or "laws"? did Hillary Clinton send and store classified material with her no

by mkempe 12y ago

Why do you think General Petraeus just pleaded guilty in court? because of "rules" or "laws"? did Hillary Clinton send and store classified material with her non-government email account? will the law apply to her the way it has been applied to Petraeus?

sanderjd 12y ago
1. Because he shared classified information with someone who did not have clearance to have it, which is against the law. 2. I don't know, do you? My guess is that, yes, she did. 3. It depends on whether shared classified information with anybody who did not have clearance. My guess is that, no, she didn't, or this would already be a much bigger story. Using a personal email address is not the same as sharing classified information.
danielweber 12y ago
You can get clearance to store classified information at your home. For the vast majority of people it's nonsensical, but the Secretary of State is one of the few for whom I can see it without much trouble. But this issue isn't (yet) about handling of classified material; it's about government oversight.
filoeleven 12y ago
> will the law apply to her the way it has been applied to Petraeus? Your phrasing is very apropos, since if the law is applied to her (which I believe is the question you are asking), it will almost certainly be applied to her "the way it has been applied to Petraeus", as opposed to the way it's applied to someone lower down the totem pole: "[Former State Dept. official Stephen] Kim did not hand over a copy of the [classified North Korea] report — he just discussed it, and nothing else — and the report was subsequently described in court documents as a “nothing burger” in terms of its sensitivity. Kim is currently in prison on a 13-month sentence."[0] For context, Petraeus "gave highly-classified journals to his onetime lover and that he lied to the FBI about it."[0] [0]https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/03/petraeus-plea-deal-reveals-two-tier-justice-system-leaks/ https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/03/petraeus-plea-...

by mkempe 12y ago

sanderjd 12y ago

1. Because he shared classified information with someone who did not have clearance to have it, which is against the law. 2. I don't know, do you? My guess is that, yes, she did. 3. It depends on whether shared classified information with anybody who did not have clearance. My guess is that, no, she didn't, or this would already be a much bigger story. Using a personal email address is not the same as sharing classified information.

danielweber 12y ago

You can get clearance to store classified information at your home. For the vast majority of people it's nonsensical, but the Secretary of State is one of the few for whom I can see it without much trouble. But this issue isn't (yet) about handling of classified material; it's about government oversight.

filoeleven 12y ago

> will the law apply to her the way it has been applied to Petraeus? Your phrasing is very apropos, since if the law is applied to her (which I believe is the question you are asking), it will almost certainly be applied to her "the way it has been applied to Petraeus", as opposed to the way it's applied to someone lower down the totem pole: "[Former State Dept. official Stephen] Kim did not hand over a copy of the [classified North Korea] report — he just discussed it, and nothing else — and the report was subsequently described in court documents as a “nothing burger” in terms of its sensitivity. Kim is currently in prison on a 13-month sentence."[0] For context, Petraeus "gave highly-classified journals to his onetime lover and that he lied to the FBI about it."[0] [0]https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/03/petraeus-plea-deal-reveals-two-tier-justice-system-leaks/ https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/03/petraeus-plea-...