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Even if it's never retrieved (which is likely, given how difficult it is to access), I think the mere fact that it was spotted, marked, and can be explored, is

by weland 12y ago

Even if it's never retrieved (which is likely, given how difficult it is to access), I think the mere fact that it was spotted, marked, and can be explored, is an important milestone. People ought to remember these things.

masklinn 12y ago
> I think the mere fact that it was spotted, marked, and can be explored, is an important milestone. An important milestone of what? It's not like that wreck is likely to contain anything of interest, anything which would change our understanding of the pacific theatre let alone the war. And we have extensive traces of more or less the entire history of the Musashi (including a rough location of the sinking) so its eventual fate has never been in question. > People ought to remember these things. I'm reasonably certain the activities of one of the biggest navies of WWII is remembered reasonably clearly. By opposition to, say, the Porajmos.
- weland 12y ago
  > An important milestone of what? It's not like that wreck is likely to contain anything of interest, anything which would change our understanding of the pacific theatre let alone the war. The battlefield at Agincourt also contains nothing of interest, and the famed forest isn't there today, either. And yet, there's still a plaque there that commemorates the event, just like there is on every memorial house. Even if it didn't add any information, the mere fact that the ship was found is important. A pile of metal on the bottom of the sea is a far stronger reminder.
  - masklinn 12y ago
    > A pile of metal on the bottom of the sea is a far stronger reminder. 1. A pile of metal a kilometer under the surface is no reminder, an invisible reminder reminds nobody. 2. 30 ships and 500+ planes were lost during Leyte Gulf, it's not like one more wreck nobody can see unless they've bought themselves a $200m yacht and an ROV is going to change any reminding. If you find rich people playing with their toys cool that's fine, but don't pretend they're doing anything other than playing with their toys.
    - ethbro 12y ago
      > If you find rich people playing with their toys cool that's fine, but don't pretend they're doing anything other than playing with their toys. If you want to be snarky, I'd say it at minimum means something to the ~1,000 families of the Japanese sailors who went down with the ship.
Shivetya 12y ago
color me impressed when someone like him finds MH370 or other truly extraordinary disappearances. there are so many other things go searching for than the twin of another ship we already have found.

by weland 12y ago

masklinn 12y ago

> I think the mere fact that it was spotted, marked, and can be explored, is an important milestone. An important milestone of what? It's not like that wreck is likely to contain anything of interest, anything which would change our understanding of the pacific theatre let alone the war. And we have extensive traces of more or less the entire history of the Musashi (including a rough location of the sinking) so its eventual fate has never been in question. > People ought to remember these things. I'm reasonably certain the activities of one of the biggest navies of WWII is remembered reasonably clearly. By opposition to, say, the Porajmos.

weland 12y ago
> An important milestone of what? It's not like that wreck is likely to contain anything of interest, anything which would change our understanding of the pacific theatre let alone the war. The battlefield at Agincourt also contains nothing of interest, and the famed forest isn't there today, either. And yet, there's still a plaque there that commemorates the event, just like there is on every memorial house. Even if it didn't add any information, the mere fact that the ship was found is important. A pile of metal on the bottom of the sea is a far stronger reminder.
- masklinn 12y ago
  > A pile of metal on the bottom of the sea is a far stronger reminder. 1. A pile of metal a kilometer under the surface is no reminder, an invisible reminder reminds nobody. 2. 30 ships and 500+ planes were lost during Leyte Gulf, it's not like one more wreck nobody can see unless they've bought themselves a $200m yacht and an ROV is going to change any reminding. If you find rich people playing with their toys cool that's fine, but don't pretend they're doing anything other than playing with their toys.
  - ethbro 12y ago
    > If you find rich people playing with their toys cool that's fine, but don't pretend they're doing anything other than playing with their toys. If you want to be snarky, I'd say it at minimum means something to the ~1,000 families of the Japanese sailors who went down with the ship.

Shivetya 12y ago

color me impressed when someone like him finds MH370 or other truly extraordinary disappearances. there are so many other things go searching for than the twin of another ship we already have found.