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My 2 cents... There are many people running the US (Congress + Presidents + Supreme Court) who: - Failed out of school - Got fired - Lost elections - Had I

My 2 cents... There are many people running the US (Congress + Presidents + Supreme Court) who: - Failed out of school - Got fired - Lost elections - Had IRS problems - Couldn't pay the rent - Got cheated on - Cheated on their spouse - Had drug/weight/gambling/booze/sex/spending problems What's the significant common denominator? They didn't dwell on a few minutes of failure.

PhasmaFelis 12y ago
Do we know that? There's plenty of powerful people in the world with impostor syndrome. In any case, it's not very constructive advice. Telling depressed people that they shouldn't beat themselves up because it leads to failure just makes them beat themselves up for beating themselves up. IIRC, the best practice is to teach self-compassion: it's okay to be down on yourself sometimes; just let it happen and keep moving forward as best you can.
- sthreet 12y ago
  Upon reading what impostor syndrome is, I had the weirdest feeling. I don't have this problem with your advice specifically, but with this type of advice on the internet in general. Everyone tells people what they should do, but there is no how they should do it. (I've had the same problem with the limited books I've read, and haven't gotten much advice from people.)
hessenwolf 12y ago
Yeah, and it would be awesome if we didn't have to have squeaky clean, unrealistic politicians. That is a really small sample of people, who are a) weirdly repressed, or b) amazing liers.
ryanobjc 12y ago
I disagree that "they didn't dwell" - you honestly don't know that and in fact we know for a fact some did.
pjc50 12y ago
It's not up to you whether you get to dwell on failure if someone else has a record of it and decides to use it against you or monetise it to the tabloid press. We're already seeing the phenomenon that when someone goes over a threshold of public visibility, their entire social media presence is scanned for objectionable comments. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/03/phone-hacking-widespread-mirror-titles-court-told http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/03/phone-hacking...
- sthreet 12y ago
  It seems weird that people (or maybe media) act like they want honesty, but if someone were to say "I messed up that time" that seems like a pretty big headline. "<horrible person> admits to <mistake>"
  - pjc50 12y ago
    I'm annoyed that even changing your mind in response to criticism or evidence is loudly condemned as a "U-Turn". There's great pressure to pick a position early on and then stick to it, no matter how indefensible it is. The media aren't interested in honesty and wouldn't recognise it if they tripped over it in the street. They're interested in feeding the scandal machine. If there isn't any scandal, make one.
ksherlock 12y ago
Some didn't dwell, some dwelled and got over it, some are just plain sociopaths.

PhasmaFelis 12y ago

Do we know that? There's plenty of powerful people in the world with impostor syndrome. In any case, it's not very constructive advice. Telling depressed people that they shouldn't beat themselves up because it leads to failure just makes them beat themselves up for beating themselves up. IIRC, the best practice is to teach self-compassion: it's okay to be down on yourself sometimes; just let it happen and keep moving forward as best you can.

sthreet 12y ago
Upon reading what impostor syndrome is, I had the weirdest feeling. I don't have this problem with your advice specifically, but with this type of advice on the internet in general. Everyone tells people what they should do, but there is no how they should do it. (I've had the same problem with the limited books I've read, and haven't gotten much advice from people.)

hessenwolf 12y ago

Yeah, and it would be awesome if we didn't have to have squeaky clean, unrealistic politicians. That is a really small sample of people, who are a) weirdly repressed, or b) amazing liers.

ryanobjc 12y ago

I disagree that "they didn't dwell" - you honestly don't know that and in fact we know for a fact some did.

pjc50 12y ago

It's not up to you whether you get to dwell on failure if someone else has a record of it and decides to use it against you or monetise it to the tabloid press. We're already seeing the phenomenon that when someone goes over a threshold of public visibility, their entire social media presence is scanned for objectionable comments. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/03/phone-hacking-widespread-mirror-titles-court-told http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/03/phone-hacking...

sthreet 12y ago
It seems weird that people (or maybe media) act like they want honesty, but if someone were to say "I messed up that time" that seems like a pretty big headline. "<horrible person> admits to <mistake>"
- pjc50 12y ago
  I'm annoyed that even changing your mind in response to criticism or evidence is loudly condemned as a "U-Turn". There's great pressure to pick a position early on and then stick to it, no matter how indefensible it is. The media aren't interested in honesty and wouldn't recognise it if they tripped over it in the street. They're interested in feeding the scandal machine. If there isn't any scandal, make one.

ksherlock 12y ago

Some didn't dwell, some dwelled and got over it, some are just plain sociopaths.