Back when I followed the long discussions about introducing git at the ASF (now live at git.apache.org) several git proponents said that git without github is p

Back when I followed the long discussions about introducing git at the ASF (now live at git.apache.org) several git proponents said that git without github is pointless to them. I was quite surprised how adamant some people were about that. Before then I never thought of github as a sort of GUI for git, just as... one service for repository storage out of many, I guess? The ASF has a strict policy of self-hosting. So git repos are now mirrored to github from ASF intrastructure, for the github fans who initially suggested the reverse (ignoring obvious problems such as ASF having no influence over what happens at github).