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How do you think this will affect major users/projects, e.g. Qt, on Gitorious? How much will their workflow have to change?

by doughj3 12y ago

sytse 12y ago
They will have to import their repo's into GitLab. This means that all their urls will change. This is quite unfortunate but we hope they'll appreciate the improved interface and features that GitLab brings such as a great merge request flow. Please let me know if you have any specific concerns.
- callahad 12y ago
  I'm concerned about losing access to public projects that are not actively maintained, and thus won't make the transition to GitLab. Is it possible to leave Gitorious online in read-only mode after the May deadline?
  - sytse 12y ago
    Unfortunately that is not possible because of the hosting costs for Gitorious.org. We're reaching out to archive.org to index everything but it is probably not easy to git clone from there. Feel free to create mirrors of things that are important.
    - CyberShadow 12y ago
      Wouldn't it be possible to migrate the git repositories automatically, and set up redirects? Destroying what might be the only public repository of some projects, and breaking a ton of existing links, is not something that sounds good.
      - sytse 12y ago
        We don't want to move people's code without them agreeing with that move to another organization. But I agree the broken links are not nice. I'm not sure how practical it is to redirect projects that moved themselves.
    - CHY872 12y ago
      Might it be possible to at least store copies on gitlab - say, have a project/user/organisation called gitorious with every gitorious project under it? I can't admit that I know just how much stuff is hosted on gitorious, but it might not be too onerous.
      - sytse 12y ago
        It is about 4.5TB that is hosted there and we don't want to move people's code to another organization and domain without asking. Edit: I updated the size, it was not 12TB but 4.5
    - walterbell 12y ago
      Are redirects that expensive? How about giving the domain to another entity that is willing to pick up the hosting and/or redirection costs?
      - pointfree 12y ago
        >How about giving the domain to another entity that is willing to pick up the hosting and/or redirection costs? GitLab bought Gitorious so they could shut it down, not so they could give it to someone else. That is the purpose of acquisitions within the same field.
        sytse 12y ago
        The main reason for the acquisition is to give and communicate a clear upgrade path for existing Gitorious users. If someone wants to pay for the hosting costs to keep gitorious.org running longer we'd be happy to do that. Please email me at sytse@gitlab.com or comment here if you're interested.
        zyxley 12y ago
        >The main reason for the acquisition is to give and communicate a clear upgrade path for existing Gitorious users. That's a pretty disingenuous thing to say when it seems like the only reason an "upgrade path" is needed in the first place is because of the acquisition and shutdown. Edit: Even with Gitorious being "no longer sustainable" in its current form, there are other methods that could have been used (price adjustments, fundraising, etc) rather than an outright and very short-term shutdown.
        sytse 12y ago
        Responding after the edit. Price adjustments and fundraising make sense when a project is alive and growing, but Gitorious had been seeing less and less contributions over the last few years.
      - sytse 12y ago

How do you think this will affect major users/projects, e.g. Qt, on Gitorious? How much will their workflow have to change?

by doughj3 12y ago

How do you think this will affect major users/projects, e.g. Qt, on Gitorious? How much will their workflow have to change?

sytse 12y ago

They will have to import their repo's into GitLab. This means that all their urls will change. This is quite unfortunate but we hope they'll appreciate the improved interface and features that GitLab brings such as a great merge request flow. Please let me know if you have any specific concerns.

callahad 12y ago
I'm concerned about losing access to public projects that are not actively maintained, and thus won't make the transition to GitLab. Is it possible to leave Gitorious online in read-only mode after the May deadline?
- sytse 12y ago
  Unfortunately that is not possible because of the hosting costs for Gitorious.org. We're reaching out to archive.org to index everything but it is probably not easy to git clone from there. Feel free to create mirrors of things that are important.
  - CyberShadow 12y ago
    Wouldn't it be possible to migrate the git repositories automatically, and set up redirects? Destroying what might be the only public repository of some projects, and breaking a ton of existing links, is not something that sounds good.
    - sytse 12y ago
      We don't want to move people's code without them agreeing with that move to another organization. But I agree the broken links are not nice. I'm not sure how practical it is to redirect projects that moved themselves.
  - CHY872 12y ago
    Might it be possible to at least store copies on gitlab - say, have a project/user/organisation called gitorious with every gitorious project under it? I can't admit that I know just how much stuff is hosted on gitorious, but it might not be too onerous.
    - sytse 12y ago
      It is about 4.5TB that is hosted there and we don't want to move people's code to another organization and domain without asking. Edit: I updated the size, it was not 12TB but 4.5
  - walterbell 12y ago
    Are redirects that expensive? How about giving the domain to another entity that is willing to pick up the hosting and/or redirection costs?
    - pointfree 12y ago
      >How about giving the domain to another entity that is willing to pick up the hosting and/or redirection costs? GitLab bought Gitorious so they could shut it down, not so they could give it to someone else. That is the purpose of acquisitions within the same field.
      - sytse 12y ago
        The main reason for the acquisition is to give and communicate a clear upgrade path for existing Gitorious users. If someone wants to pay for the hosting costs to keep gitorious.org running longer we'd be happy to do that. Please email me at sytse@gitlab.com or comment here if you're interested.
        zyxley 12y ago
        >The main reason for the acquisition is to give and communicate a clear upgrade path for existing Gitorious users. That's a pretty disingenuous thing to say when it seems like the only reason an "upgrade path" is needed in the first place is because of the acquisition and shutdown. Edit: Even with Gitorious being "no longer sustainable" in its current form, there are other methods that could have been used (price adjustments, fundraising, etc) rather than an outright and very short-term shutdown.
        sytse 12y ago
        Responding after the edit. Price adjustments and fundraising make sense when a project is alive and growing, but Gitorious had been seeing less and less contributions over the last few years.
    - sytse 12y ago