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He really nailed it with the mouse.

by LanceH 12y ago

mhurron 12y ago
Yep, this thing was beautiful http://cdn.mactrast.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/2012-11-27-puck.png http://cdn.mactrast.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/2012-11-2... Apples design is hit and miss like everyone else.
- analog31 12y ago
  My carpal tunnels ache just looking at it.
  - graeme 12y ago
    I agree with you. I could never use Apple mice. I hurt my arm muscles typing a few years back. Haven't been able to use them since. (fixed the arm problem with physio and massage) However, the apple trackpad on my macbook air seems to work great. I like this more than even ordinary mice, which can sometimes aggravate the issue.
    - yellowapple 12y ago
      I personally swear by Logitech's trackball mice (the ones where the trackball is operated with the thumb); less wrist movement involved, meaning less strain there. In contrast, my wrist hurts just thinking about the Mighty Mouse or whatever it's called.
      - protomyth 12y ago
        I was very unhappy to find they don't sell the wired version anymore, only the non-Bluetooth wireless. Glad I bought a couple.
        Turing_Machine 12y ago
        Yes and yes. I hate it when I find a product that's perfect for my needs and then it gets discontinued. The Logitech trackball was one of them. It's one of those tools that (after you get used to it) just becomes an extension of your hand. The wireless (which is what I'm using at the moment) is okay, but it's not the same. I've got some dead ones in the junk pile. When I get some time I'm going to see if I can cobble together a working unit from them.
        mjcohen 12y ago
        I have both, and I prefer the wireless. No cords, the battery lasts a long time, and I can program it on my Mac so that, when using Chrome, the extra buttons click on a link, open the link in a new tab, and switch to that tab. When will Chrome offer the option of switching to a new tab when its link is clicked on? Firefox has had it forever.
        59nadir 12y ago
        > When will Chrome offer the option of switching to a new tab when its link is clicked on? Firefox has had it forever. When will the big browsers be programmable? I'm currently running uzbl[0] because I want to set my own hotkeys in my browser. I tried 4 different 'emacs bindings' extensions for other browsers until I just figured out that none of these is gonna get it completely right. The good thing in all of this is that I now control the behavior and features of my browser myself. I've made features that wouldn't even be possible in Firefox/Chrome. Not because it should be all that hard, but because they just don't let you actually do anything with them. Browsers are pretty much like e-mail clients. They all suck. Some suck less than others, but it's actually striking how bad the sum total of all the browsers' usability is. Ironically I had to switch to a browser that wasn't trying to be a modern browser to get the browser experience that I wanted. Links: [0] - http://www.uzbl.org/ http://www.uzbl.org/
        wooger 12y ago
        If you tried pentadactyl / vimperator extensions for Firefox I'd be surprised if you found anything you couldn't program that you can acheve in uzbl.
    - ptevans 12y ago
      Also, trackpads encourage good coding hygiene. Which is say continously using them makes a horrific sweaty mess, so you stay with the keyboard and keep coding. (Unless you really really like w3) Also I thought "hockey puck mouse" was an old DEC mouse. Dec as in, "my Vaxstation is better than your Mac, cause it has a mouse AND it's still a VAX." (I still like saying "VAX" Side-effect: I start SHIFTING INTO ALL CAPS. ) Paul
    - analog31 12y ago
      I find that variety helps: Use one thing for a while, then use something else. Right now I love my little notebook computer with a touch screen. That, and a good trackpad, allow me to keep my hands in a neutral position, which is like a loosely closed fist with the index fingers pointing outward. My other issue is eyestrain. I can type text without looking at the screen, so I tend to prefer text based interfaces. And keyboard shortcuts are a way to rest from overuse of pointing devices. (i.e., overuse of our bodies) Remember the urban legend about the QWERTY keyboard, that it was designed to slow us down in order to distract us from how slow typewriters were? Sometimes I wonder if the modern GUI has turned into something like that: Simple tasks require us to control the computer's sequence of operations through extensive manual and ocular labor, rather than us just telling it what we want it to do. Just a weird thought, offered for amusement.
  - leppr 12y ago
    That's because your upper-arm length is disproportionately different from Steve Jobs'. Apple doesn't design for the handicapped.
- sambeau 12y ago
  I loved that mouse. It was the most comfortable mouse I ever had and, if held correctly, you could fling it about with real accuracy. I was sad when they replaced it.
chipotle_coyote 12y ago
There are some people who really love Apple's mice, even the notorious "hockey puck" one. (Which to be fair was actually pretty comfortable to use, assuming you ever got the damn thing pointing the right way.) I'm not one of them, but I'm not really a huge fan of mice, period -- and their current weirdo mouse-with-touch-surface certainly offers a lot of gesture control, and it's not that uncomfortable. (Granted, "The Apple Mouse: Hey, you've used worse" isn't a very compelling slogan.)
- leoc 12y ago
  The hockey-puck mouse would have been a lot nicer to use had it been wireless. The small, round body didn't provide a good grip for wrestling with that stiff cable.
- jjoonathan 12y ago
  > even the notorious "hockey puck" one I've always wondered why people hate on it so much -- even if someone prefers to point with their arm rather than their fingers, surely they can understand the appeal of using fingers to point at things?
  - sukilot 12y ago
    Fingerpointing is touchscreen. The puck mouse was just awkward pushing with fingers.

He really nailed it with the mouse.

by LanceH 12y ago

He really nailed it with the mouse.

Yep, this thing was beautiful http://cdn.mactrast.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/2012-11-27-puck.png http://cdn.mactrast.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/2012-11-2... Apples design is hit and miss like everyone else.

analog31 12y ago
My carpal tunnels ache just looking at it.
- graeme 12y ago
  I agree with you. I could never use Apple mice. I hurt my arm muscles typing a few years back. Haven't been able to use them since. (fixed the arm problem with physio and massage) However, the apple trackpad on my macbook air seems to work great. I like this more than even ordinary mice, which can sometimes aggravate the issue.
  - yellowapple 12y ago
    I personally swear by Logitech's trackball mice (the ones where the trackball is operated with the thumb); less wrist movement involved, meaning less strain there. In contrast, my wrist hurts just thinking about the Mighty Mouse or whatever it's called.
    - protomyth 12y ago
      I was very unhappy to find they don't sell the wired version anymore, only the non-Bluetooth wireless. Glad I bought a couple.
      - Turing_Machine 12y ago
        Yes and yes. I hate it when I find a product that's perfect for my needs and then it gets discontinued. The Logitech trackball was one of them. It's one of those tools that (after you get used to it) just becomes an extension of your hand. The wireless (which is what I'm using at the moment) is okay, but it's not the same. I've got some dead ones in the junk pile. When I get some time I'm going to see if I can cobble together a working unit from them.
      - mjcohen 12y ago
        I have both, and I prefer the wireless. No cords, the battery lasts a long time, and I can program it on my Mac so that, when using Chrome, the extra buttons click on a link, open the link in a new tab, and switch to that tab. When will Chrome offer the option of switching to a new tab when its link is clicked on? Firefox has had it forever.
        59nadir 12y ago
        > When will Chrome offer the option of switching to a new tab when its link is clicked on? Firefox has had it forever. When will the big browsers be programmable? I'm currently running uzbl[0] because I want to set my own hotkeys in my browser. I tried 4 different 'emacs bindings' extensions for other browsers until I just figured out that none of these is gonna get it completely right. The good thing in all of this is that I now control the behavior and features of my browser myself. I've made features that wouldn't even be possible in Firefox/Chrome. Not because it should be all that hard, but because they just don't let you actually do anything with them. Browsers are pretty much like e-mail clients. They all suck. Some suck less than others, but it's actually striking how bad the sum total of all the browsers' usability is. Ironically I had to switch to a browser that wasn't trying to be a modern browser to get the browser experience that I wanted. Links: [0] - http://www.uzbl.org/ http://www.uzbl.org/
        wooger 12y ago
        If you tried pentadactyl / vimperator extensions for Firefox I'd be surprised if you found anything you couldn't program that you can acheve in uzbl.
  - ptevans 12y ago
    Also, trackpads encourage good coding hygiene. Which is say continously using them makes a horrific sweaty mess, so you stay with the keyboard and keep coding. (Unless you really really like w3) Also I thought "hockey puck mouse" was an old DEC mouse. Dec as in, "my Vaxstation is better than your Mac, cause it has a mouse AND it's still a VAX." (I still like saying "VAX" Side-effect: I start SHIFTING INTO ALL CAPS. ) Paul
  - analog31 12y ago
    I find that variety helps: Use one thing for a while, then use something else. Right now I love my little notebook computer with a touch screen. That, and a good trackpad, allow me to keep my hands in a neutral position, which is like a loosely closed fist with the index fingers pointing outward. My other issue is eyestrain. I can type text without looking at the screen, so I tend to prefer text based interfaces. And keyboard shortcuts are a way to rest from overuse of pointing devices. (i.e., overuse of our bodies) Remember the urban legend about the QWERTY keyboard, that it was designed to slow us down in order to distract us from how slow typewriters were? Sometimes I wonder if the modern GUI has turned into something like that: Simple tasks require us to control the computer's sequence of operations through extensive manual and ocular labor, rather than us just telling it what we want it to do. Just a weird thought, offered for amusement.
- leppr 12y ago
  That's because your upper-arm length is disproportionately different from Steve Jobs'. Apple doesn't design for the handicapped.
sambeau 12y ago
I loved that mouse. It was the most comfortable mouse I ever had and, if held correctly, you could fling it about with real accuracy. I was sad when they replaced it.

chipotle_coyote 12y ago

There are some people who really love Apple's mice, even the notorious "hockey puck" one. (Which to be fair was actually pretty comfortable to use, assuming you ever got the damn thing pointing the right way.) I'm not one of them, but I'm not really a huge fan of mice, period -- and their current weirdo mouse-with-touch-surface certainly offers a lot of gesture control, and it's not that uncomfortable. (Granted, "The Apple Mouse: Hey, you've used worse" isn't a very compelling slogan.)

leoc 12y ago
The hockey-puck mouse would have been a lot nicer to use had it been wireless. The small, round body didn't provide a good grip for wrestling with that stiff cable.
jjoonathan 12y ago
> even the notorious "hockey puck" one I've always wondered why people hate on it so much -- even if someone prefers to point with their arm rather than their fingers, surely they can understand the appeal of using fingers to point at things?
- sukilot 12y ago
  Fingerpointing is touchscreen. The puck mouse was just awkward pushing with fingers.