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What was YC come to when !!11! comments are being upvoted? Somewhat ambiguously pro-socialist as well. YC used to be Rand-friendly, and had a capitalist slant

What was YC come to when !!11! comments are being upvoted? Somewhat ambiguously pro-socialist as well. YC used to be Rand-friendly, and had a capitalist slant since the start. Has the population changed? Or is it just the hostile original link coloring who comes here?

DanielBMarkham 17y ago
I think the population has changed dramatically -- very slowly perhaps, but it definitely seems different than it was a couple of years ago.
jrockway 17y ago
Wow, I speak for everyone on the site now? Awesome. Anyway, I don't get the anti-socialism arguments. Thanks to socialism, the US has a road network that allows anyone to drive from any one point in the country to any other. Everyone has Internet access. There is 3G service practically everywhere. You can ship a package today and have it show up anywhere else in the country tomorrow. (OK, maybe not tomorrow. Monday.) We didn't get that because of everyone looking to make a quick buck for their own personal gain, we got there because of capital influx from the government and from sane regulations. Capitalism works pretty well too. The financial industry gambled their own hard-earned money on risky securities, failed, and bailed themselves out. Oh wait, no. The government bailed them out. YC used to be Rand-friendly, and had a capitalist slant since the start. Has the population changed? Really? My account is 902 days old, and yours is 297. HN has a optimistic outlook. The reality is that you are as likely to get rich from your Twitter mashup as the banks were to profit from interest-only loans. The unifying factor is that "I am probably going to be lucky, unlike everyone else" attitude. That is not capitalism, though, just human nature.
- xenophanes 17y ago
  My first account is 804 days old, plus I lurked a few months. Do you not remember the Rand-friendly threads of the past? I remember a number of long front page ones. > Anyway, I don't get the anti-socialism arguments. Thanks to socialism, the US has a road network that allows anyone to drive from any one point in the country to any other. Do you want to get them? Capitalism agrees that road networks are good. It says there are different methods of building them. Some are cheaper and more efficient, in particular voluntary methods. Capitalism claims that a less socialist road network (other things being equal) would have a better quality to cost ratio. This claim isn't easy to evaluate, and the current state of our road networks and the current amount of socialism is in Government is largely irrelevant to evaluating it. > We didn't get that because of everyone looking to make a quick buck for their own personal gain This isn't what capitalists in general, or Rand, advocates. (e.g., drop the quick). If you genuinely want to understand the other side you'll have to try harder.

DanielBMarkham 17y ago

I think the population has changed dramatically -- very slowly perhaps, but it definitely seems different than it was a couple of years ago.

jrockway 17y ago

Wow, I speak for everyone on the site now? Awesome. Anyway, I don't get the anti-socialism arguments. Thanks to socialism, the US has a road network that allows anyone to drive from any one point in the country to any other. Everyone has Internet access. There is 3G service practically everywhere. You can ship a package today and have it show up anywhere else in the country tomorrow. (OK, maybe not tomorrow. Monday.) We didn't get that because of everyone looking to make a quick buck for their own personal gain, we got there because of capital influx from the government and from sane regulations. Capitalism works pretty well too. The financial industry gambled their own hard-earned money on risky securities, failed, and bailed themselves out. Oh wait, no. The government bailed them out. YC used to be Rand-friendly, and had a capitalist slant since the start. Has the population changed? Really? My account is 902 days old, and yours is 297. HN has a optimistic outlook. The reality is that you are as likely to get rich from your Twitter mashup as the banks were to profit from interest-only loans. The unifying factor is that "I am probably going to be lucky, unlike everyone else" attitude. That is not capitalism, though, just human nature.

xenophanes 17y ago
My first account is 804 days old, plus I lurked a few months. Do you not remember the Rand-friendly threads of the past? I remember a number of long front page ones. > Anyway, I don't get the anti-socialism arguments. Thanks to socialism, the US has a road network that allows anyone to drive from any one point in the country to any other. Do you want to get them? Capitalism agrees that road networks are good. It says there are different methods of building them. Some are cheaper and more efficient, in particular voluntary methods. Capitalism claims that a less socialist road network (other things being equal) would have a better quality to cost ratio. This claim isn't easy to evaluate, and the current state of our road networks and the current amount of socialism is in Government is largely irrelevant to evaluating it. > We didn't get that because of everyone looking to make a quick buck for their own personal gain This isn't what capitalists in general, or Rand, advocates. (e.g., drop the quick). If you genuinely want to understand the other side you'll have to try harder.