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>Well lucky him for only being able to code when he has a nice connection, not all of us do. So basically, you're de facto the field tech example he gave, out

>Well lucky him for only being able to code when he has a nice connection, not all of us do. So basically, you're de facto the field tech example he gave, out in the virtual wilderness of iffy internet.

jimktrains2 12y ago
No, I'm not a field tech. I'm a hacker. I work where I am and when I'm in the mood. In a pavilon at the park and idea strikes? Hack! At home and my internet goes out? No Problem!
- eos_styx 12y ago
  At the park when an idea strikes? Write it down on a piece of paper. No need to have your face buried in your computer every second you're at a park. Edit: All you have to do it jot down the idea if your worried you'll forget about it. You don't have to hand write out all the code that would be silly. I find having a small notebook with me is pretty handy.
  - vidarh 12y ago
    It's no better to have your face buried in sheets of paper. And who carries paper and pens around anyway?
    - worklogin 12y ago
      For the record, I carry a journal and pen in my pocket all the time. Writing down phone numbers and notes, taking a log of my life, keeping cards from businesses. Looking back through them is much more enjoyable than looking back through a Wordpress. http://shop.moleskine.com/FileLibrary/4be794eb3e094e59ac8a8fe44d744d98/cahier-journal-set-of-3-pocket-ruled-soft-cover-kraft-brown-fullsize-1.jpg http://shop.moleskine.com/FileLibrary/4be794eb3e094e59ac8a8f...
      - vidarh 12y ago
        I was being a tad facetious. I used to as well, but these days I just use a smart phone or tablet with a suitable note taking app, since I always have one with me anyway. My main point is I don't see the difference between taking notes digitally or on paper.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 12y ago
  Are you taking your laptop with you to the park 'just in case'.
  - TeMPOraL 12y ago
    I sometimes am. Definitely when the park happens to be in another city I went to visit for some reason - I feel bad without having a proper computational device with me for longer periods of time. What's wrong with that?
  - jimktrains2 12y ago
    I often have it with me because I'm normally out to meet with people and collaborate, but stay out before and after:)
TeMPOraL 12y ago
Really? This is one hell of a filter bubble. Not entire world is a goddamn Sillicon Valley. Internet is not electricity, and won't be for a while - free and reliable WiFi ain't everywhere; sometimes you work where you're not allowed to connect to a network, sometimes your ISP decides to fuck up the link for an hour for no reason whatsoever, the other day you work at a venue with office-grade Internet (i.e. slow as hell). And then you might want to hack during commute. Data plans are expensive, not every place on Earth has LTE connection (or any form of reasonable data connection for that matter) - and I don't mean wilderness, I mean the highway between two big cities. And try to tether your laptop to your phone, and then suddenly something decides it's time to download 2GB of software updates and boom, there goes your plan. Above all that, what happened with the concept of owning the data? I want my stuff available off-line, because it's mine, period. I want to run arbitrary code I write on it, and hell, I sometimes want to open the data in text editor and edit by hand. Moreover, doing constant round-trips around the world to do things that you should be able to do locally is kind of stupid. EDIT: And don't tell me about YAGNI and stuff. Version control is infrastructure, and the iron rule of infrastructure is - you use what you have; the more you have, the more you use. If you give me a feature, I'll adapt my workflow to use it, even though I was fine without it before. Cutting down on infrastructure reduces the amount of things people will create with it.
- moogleii 12y ago
  >Not entire world is a goddamn Sillicon Valley. Internet is not electricity, and won't be for a while - free and reliable WiFi ain't everywhere; sometimes you work where you're not allowed to connect to a network, sometimes your ISP decides to fuck up the link for an hour for no reason whatsoever, the other day you work at a venue with office-grade Internet (i.e. slow as hell). And then you might want to hack during commute. Data plans are expensive, not every place on Earth has LTE connection (or any form of reasonable data connection for that matter)... So, in other words, like someone working away from home base...like someone...in the field. I suppose I wasn't clear. I had hoped my use of "virtual wilderness" implied a different domain for "field" that is not necessarily a physical location. >Internet is not electricity And there was a time where electricity wasn't ubiquitous either (and it still isn't depending where you are). Such places, then and now, could be reasonably described as being relatively in the field. >and I don't mean wilderness, I mean the highway between two big cities. That could definitely fall under working in the field, especially compared to an office. >Above all that, what happened with the concept of owning the data? Choose whatever VCS you like for whatever reasons you want; it doesn't matter to me. I'm merely pointing out that I think the author covered that base. You may not be underwater in a submarine, but if you're on the road on your laptop trying to scrounge for LTE or zipping from firewalled office to firewalled office, you may as well be virtually underwater with respect to the Internet.

jimktrains2 12y ago

No, I'm not a field tech. I'm a hacker. I work where I am and when I'm in the mood. In a pavilon at the park and idea strikes? Hack! At home and my internet goes out? No Problem!

eos_styx 12y ago
At the park when an idea strikes? Write it down on a piece of paper. No need to have your face buried in your computer every second you're at a park. Edit: All you have to do it jot down the idea if your worried you'll forget about it. You don't have to hand write out all the code that would be silly. I find having a small notebook with me is pretty handy.
- vidarh 12y ago
  It's no better to have your face buried in sheets of paper. And who carries paper and pens around anyway?
  - worklogin 12y ago
    For the record, I carry a journal and pen in my pocket all the time. Writing down phone numbers and notes, taking a log of my life, keeping cards from businesses. Looking back through them is much more enjoyable than looking back through a Wordpress. http://shop.moleskine.com/FileLibrary/4be794eb3e094e59ac8a8fe44d744d98/cahier-journal-set-of-3-pocket-ruled-soft-cover-kraft-brown-fullsize-1.jpg http://shop.moleskine.com/FileLibrary/4be794eb3e094e59ac8a8f...
    - vidarh 12y ago
      I was being a tad facetious. I used to as well, but these days I just use a smart phone or tablet with a suitable note taking app, since I always have one with me anyway. My main point is I don't see the difference between taking notes digitally or on paper.
GFK_of_xmaspast 12y ago
Are you taking your laptop with you to the park 'just in case'.
- TeMPOraL 12y ago
  I sometimes am. Definitely when the park happens to be in another city I went to visit for some reason - I feel bad without having a proper computational device with me for longer periods of time. What's wrong with that?
- jimktrains2 12y ago
  I often have it with me because I'm normally out to meet with people and collaborate, but stay out before and after:)

TeMPOraL 12y ago

Really? This is one hell of a filter bubble. Not entire world is a goddamn Sillicon Valley. Internet is not electricity, and won't be for a while - free and reliable WiFi ain't everywhere; sometimes you work where you're not allowed to connect to a network, sometimes your ISP decides to fuck up the link for an hour for no reason whatsoever, the other day you work at a venue with office-grade Internet (i.e. slow as hell). And then you might want to hack during commute. Data plans are expensive, not every place on Earth has LTE connection (or any form of reasonable data connection for that matter) - and I don't mean wilderness, I mean the highway between two big cities. And try to tether your laptop to your phone, and then suddenly something decides it's time to download 2GB of software updates and boom, there goes your plan. Above all that, what happened with the concept of owning the data? I want my stuff available off-line, because it's mine, period. I want to run arbitrary code I write on it, and hell, I sometimes want to open the data in text editor and edit by hand. Moreover, doing constant round-trips around the world to do things that you should be able to do locally is kind of stupid. EDIT: And don't tell me about YAGNI and stuff. Version control is infrastructure, and the iron rule of infrastructure is - you use what you have; the more you have, the more you use. If you give me a feature, I'll adapt my workflow to use it, even though I was fine without it before. Cutting down on infrastructure reduces the amount of things people will create with it.

moogleii 12y ago
>Not entire world is a goddamn Sillicon Valley. Internet is not electricity, and won't be for a while - free and reliable WiFi ain't everywhere; sometimes you work where you're not allowed to connect to a network, sometimes your ISP decides to fuck up the link for an hour for no reason whatsoever, the other day you work at a venue with office-grade Internet (i.e. slow as hell). And then you might want to hack during commute. Data plans are expensive, not every place on Earth has LTE connection (or any form of reasonable data connection for that matter)... So, in other words, like someone working away from home base...like someone...in the field. I suppose I wasn't clear. I had hoped my use of "virtual wilderness" implied a different domain for "field" that is not necessarily a physical location. >Internet is not electricity And there was a time where electricity wasn't ubiquitous either (and it still isn't depending where you are). Such places, then and now, could be reasonably described as being relatively in the field. >and I don't mean wilderness, I mean the highway between two big cities. That could definitely fall under working in the field, especially compared to an office. >Above all that, what happened with the concept of owning the data? Choose whatever VCS you like for whatever reasons you want; it doesn't matter to me. I'm merely pointing out that I think the author covered that base. You may not be underwater in a submarine, but if you're on the road on your laptop trying to scrounge for LTE or zipping from firewalled office to firewalled office, you may as well be virtually underwater with respect to the Internet.