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I've recently moved from qwerty to dvorak for similar reasons. Even though it's not yet been 2 months of dvorak training, I score around the 60wpm in typeracer.

by mtoledo 17y ago

I've recently moved from qwerty to dvorak for similar reasons. Even though it's not yet been 2 months of dvorak training, I score around the 60wpm in typeracer. One of the reasons I decided to try it was the same 8hrs a day excuse. I now have a hard time imagining going back to qwerty like someone that touchtypes has with going back to look at the keyboard. Ps. I never understood why vi navigation is done with hjkl instead of jkl; - if you touchtype the classical way, it means you navigate with 3 fingers instead of 4. Edit: correcting typos. I'm typing from my iPhone :)

thristian 17y ago
I also switched from QWERTY to Dvorak, as an excuse to learn to touch-type - after a decade or so of typing QWERTY in my own seven-or-eight-finger style, there was no way I'd ever be able to override such ingrained habits. I've been using Dvorak constantly at home and work for several years now, and I just clocked myself at 77wpm on TypeRacer - not that impressive, but then I find I spend more time thinking and editing than typing anyway. :) Also: in those TypeRacer trials, I found my right hand doing a lot more work than my left-hand - possibly because my left hand stays on the vowels and my right-hand is jumping about all over the place. Why oh why couldn't Dvorak have put R and L somewhere more... convenient? :(
- mtoledo 17y ago
  Just to be clear, I was already a qwerty touch typist before, so I just moved for the layout efficiency. I don't dislike the r and l placement on the right hand. I do sometimes feel p should belong on the right hand tho.
zandor 17y ago
> Ps. I never understood why vi navigation is done with hjkl instead of jkl; - if you touchtype the classical way, it means you navigate with 3 fingers instead of 4. My best bet would be to support different keyboard layouts. Edit: Wrong I was :)
Tihauan 17y ago
hjkl were the arrows on the keyboard used to develop vi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Terminal_ADM3A.svg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Terminal_ADM3A.svg
- graywh 17y ago
  And maybe part of the reason for that was ctrl-h is backspace and ctrl-j is line feed.

by mtoledo 17y ago

thristian 17y ago

I also switched from QWERTY to Dvorak, as an excuse to learn to touch-type - after a decade or so of typing QWERTY in my own seven-or-eight-finger style, there was no way I'd ever be able to override such ingrained habits. I've been using Dvorak constantly at home and work for several years now, and I just clocked myself at 77wpm on TypeRacer - not that impressive, but then I find I spend more time thinking and editing than typing anyway. :) Also: in those TypeRacer trials, I found my right hand doing a lot more work than my left-hand - possibly because my left hand stays on the vowels and my right-hand is jumping about all over the place. Why oh why couldn't Dvorak have put R and L somewhere more... convenient? :(

mtoledo 17y ago
Just to be clear, I was already a qwerty touch typist before, so I just moved for the layout efficiency. I don't dislike the r and l placement on the right hand. I do sometimes feel p should belong on the right hand tho.

zandor 17y ago

> Ps. I never understood why vi navigation is done with hjkl instead of jkl; - if you touchtype the classical way, it means you navigate with 3 fingers instead of 4. My best bet would be to support different keyboard layouts. Edit: Wrong I was :)

Tihauan 17y ago

hjkl were the arrows on the keyboard used to develop vi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Terminal_ADM3A.svg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Terminal_ADM3A.svg

graywh 17y ago
And maybe part of the reason for that was ctrl-h is backspace and ctrl-j is line feed.