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One of the main reason I am using Drupal and not WordPress is that the WordPress community seem to prefer more paid "premium" stuff over FOSS ones. Take Drupal

One of the main reason I am using Drupal and not WordPress is that the WordPress community seem to prefer more paid "premium" stuff over FOSS ones. Take Drupal Commerce for example, you have access to all of the plugins but you only need to pay for support. For wordpress, it's a completely different story, either pay for a full version of woocommerce with all the bells and whistles, or stick with using the half-baked "basic" version, lacking crucial features. While I understand the need for monetization, for startups and new companies this model is very pricey compared to the Drupal one.

aram 12y ago
Good points; however, this is not only important for startups and new companies, but for the community itself. Drupal has much stronger community than WordPress & Joomla for example, and I think this has to do with keeping all extensions in one place and discouraging premium ones. This way all developers can get whatever they need, but because of Drupal's "complexity", you there is way less crappy code written by people who are just passing by, as in WP/Joomla.
- MichaelTieso 12y ago
  This seems opinion based. I'd argue WordPress has a much stronger community.
  - Jgrubb 12y ago
    This also seems opinion based. I'd argue Drupal has a much stronger community ;)
    - mikeschinkel 12y ago
      And yours seems opinion based. I'd argue WordPress has a much stronger community in part because is has around 10x more community members. :-p
  - nacho2sweet 12y ago
    I would agree. I work in a large organization that shoves all websites into drupal, and provides our non-technical clients with solutions they don't like using. The Drupal pumpers I always feel are just highly opinionated techno-files, and somewhat insufferable to debate with. I think most are scared of learning new technologies, and none of their opinions are based on developing solutions and workflows that easy to use for their clients or how people surf the web (google it). All the drupal modules are 5 years old, have 30,000 installs, and don't actually do anything nicely that you want them to do. Go find a drupal module that is similar to Yoast SEO. Go find a great responsive template to base your sites design on for that matter. Setup a author-editor-publish workflow that someone who only knows how to use facebook and gmail can work with. Drupal is terrible for clients to manage.
tvanantwerp 12y ago
I'm currently administering a Drupal site and plan to migrate to WordPress. One of the big reasons is that, every time I look for a solution to a Drupal problem that someone else has solved via a module, the best I get is something that only works on version 6 and hasn't been updated for two years. Whenever I check for similar solutions on WordPress, I almost always find something up-to-date that solves my problems. I'll gladly pay $50 for some premium plugin so I don't have to write my own. I've got plenty of other things to do in the day.
MichaelTieso 12y ago
Perhaps biased since I work for WooThemes but I disagree. First of all WooCommerce is free. What you need on your site is not needed on all sites. There is no "basic" version of WooCommerce. There is only one version and what you need on top of that is up to you. Extensions can be purchased from our marketplace or several others, but that's optional. There are free ones on WordPress.org that provide what you're looking for that are free but you will need to pay for support. WooCommerce itself works the same way. You also have the option to develop what you need on your site.

aram 12y ago

Good points; however, this is not only important for startups and new companies, but for the community itself. Drupal has much stronger community than WordPress & Joomla for example, and I think this has to do with keeping all extensions in one place and discouraging premium ones. This way all developers can get whatever they need, but because of Drupal's "complexity", you there is way less crappy code written by people who are just passing by, as in WP/Joomla.

MichaelTieso 12y ago
This seems opinion based. I'd argue WordPress has a much stronger community.
- Jgrubb 12y ago
  This also seems opinion based. I'd argue Drupal has a much stronger community ;)
  - mikeschinkel 12y ago
    And yours seems opinion based. I'd argue WordPress has a much stronger community in part because is has around 10x more community members. :-p
- nacho2sweet 12y ago
  I would agree. I work in a large organization that shoves all websites into drupal, and provides our non-technical clients with solutions they don't like using. The Drupal pumpers I always feel are just highly opinionated techno-files, and somewhat insufferable to debate with. I think most are scared of learning new technologies, and none of their opinions are based on developing solutions and workflows that easy to use for their clients or how people surf the web (google it). All the drupal modules are 5 years old, have 30,000 installs, and don't actually do anything nicely that you want them to do. Go find a drupal module that is similar to Yoast SEO. Go find a great responsive template to base your sites design on for that matter. Setup a author-editor-publish workflow that someone who only knows how to use facebook and gmail can work with. Drupal is terrible for clients to manage.

tvanantwerp 12y ago

I'm currently administering a Drupal site and plan to migrate to WordPress. One of the big reasons is that, every time I look for a solution to a Drupal problem that someone else has solved via a module, the best I get is something that only works on version 6 and hasn't been updated for two years. Whenever I check for similar solutions on WordPress, I almost always find something up-to-date that solves my problems. I'll gladly pay $50 for some premium plugin so I don't have to write my own. I've got plenty of other things to do in the day.

MichaelTieso 12y ago

Perhaps biased since I work for WooThemes but I disagree. First of all WooCommerce is free. What you need on your site is not needed on all sites. There is no "basic" version of WooCommerce. There is only one version and what you need on top of that is up to you. Extensions can be purchased from our marketplace or several others, but that's optional. There are free ones on WordPress.org that provide what you're looking for that are free but you will need to pay for support. WooCommerce itself works the same way. You also have the option to develop what you need on your site.