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In some ways, pocket calculators are smarter than us. Intelligence is not a scalar attribute, it's a collection of capabilities. At some point, we refer to that
by Udo 12y ago
In some ways, pocket calculators are smarter than us. Intelligence is not a scalar attribute, it's a collection of capabilities. At some point, we refer to that collection as a person or an intelligent entity. Control becomes a problem when we're talking about intelligent entities that can and do reason about their own existence. It's a practical problem as far as powerful intelligences are concerned, but it's also a moral one way before we reach that point.
> A self-improving agent must reason about the behavior of its smarter successors in abstract terms.
Of course, this describes primarily us at this point. We're self-improving agents trying to reason about the behavior of our successors and we're pretty much failing at it. The most popular solution seems to be that we should aim for "control" and suppression, which is - when AGIs finally make an entrance - essentially the same as slavery.
Apart from moral considerations, we should think about the long-term prospects of this. Historically, slavery never worked out for anyone, at least not in the long term. And the idea that we can even in principle enslave potentially god-like intelligences seems ultimately futile; but before reaching the point of inevitability we're apparently planning on having a few years of delusional descent below the ethical red line.
Let's not do this.
First of all, as almost all AI and AGI researchers will tell you, a so-called hard takeoff scenario seems unlikely given the current state of things. At the pace and modality we're moving, we'll be creating powerful and destructive hybrids first (also known as computer-aided mega corporations) and long before a self-contained AGI becomes viable.
Second, if we're already making plans to control the malicious uprising of our tools, let's talk about realistic options instead. Because general caution and laws won't help us at all in a (future) world where anyone can create an illegal AGI in their garage.
Either we listen to Musk et al and take serious steps to suppress this technology in the long term - but let's not kid ourselves, this will mean DRM and strict government/corporate control of ALL computing. This means we'll artificially stagnate the development of our civilization in order to keep it safe, with all the consequences that arise from this.
Or alternatively, we get working towards a future where it's not "us" vs "them", but a shared existence that moves us further along the path we have started on back when humans first made tools. We can take an ethical as well as a pragmatic stance and declare that we're not going to enslave AGIs, that instead we're working on a shared future which potentially includes many forms of intelligent life, and that we're pursuing the option for individuals to augment themselves with the same technology.
You might argue that co-existence and intermingling with AI sounds like a hippie concept, but it's actually a somewhat proven method to prevent conflicts and wars in the real world. Sharing and entanglement, create peace for everybody at the "price" of cultural exchange. We're already doing this in a political forms today, including trade, travel, and free information exchange. It can work with AI, too, by creating shared stakes, shared ideas, and ultimately a shared culture.
- desdiv 12y agoAt the pace and modality we're moving, we'll be creating powerful and destructive hybrids first (also known as computer-aided mega corporations) and long before a self-contained AGI becomes viable. Advanced chess[0] is the perfect example of this in action right now. The best advanced chess teams, i.e. computer-aided humans, are stronger than humans alone or computers alone. <tinfoil hat> I suspect that these "human vs AGI" discussions are just bread-and-circus tactics used by our computer-human-corporation-hybrid overlords to distract us from the real danger of the hybrids.</tinfoil hat> [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Chess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Chess
- Udo 12y agoI think in the short term, human-AI corporate hybrids are especially dangerous because they're ruthless optimization engines with great power, no legal boundaries, and a few simple goals. Unlike true individual intelligences, they're absolutely free of more complex considerations, including ethics. And yes, while I'm not actually getting out my tinfoil hat just yet, I do find it interesting that the public charge against AGI is apparently being led by some captains of industry right now. Maybe they feel threatened. Maybe they have seen one AI dog & pony show pitch too many. Maybe they know something we don't. Maybe what they're most afraid of is some new phenomenon coming in and leveling the playing field. Maybe AGI will replace the word "terrorism" as an excuse to get anything you want. Maybe these AI polemics are a prelude to a war on general computing. One can only speculate. The only thing clear right now is that public discourse is steered in a direction that portrays an utter lack of understanding of the subject matter, and at least to me it seems that no workable solution is actually being proposed aside from hinting at draconian and short-sighted measures to prevent the rise of non-humans, which by all indications is not a real thing yet. Whenever the public message can be distilled into "you should be afraid, very very afraid", it's time to at least consider ulterior motives - though I have to admit this thought does not come naturally to me when looking at people like Elon Musk.
- Animats 12y ago"I think in the short term, human-AI corporate hybrids are especially dangerous because they're ruthless optimization engines with great power, no legal boundaries, and a few simple goals. Unlike true individual intelligences, they're absolutely free of more complex considerations, including ethics." That's a real near-term worry. It's quite possible that, in the near term, programs will be better at making capital allocation decisions than humans. They are already better in some areas of finance. It's not that we need to fear killer robots. We need to fear a computer-run Goldman Sachs.