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I don't know what slumber party means but it seems completely crazy to have a bunch of kids together and play video games, eat pizza, watch horror movies. Do yo

by gbog 12y ago

I don't know what slumber party means but it seems completely crazy to have a bunch of kids together and play video games, eat pizza, watch horror movies. Do you want spoiled fat bored and boring kids? Because that's how you get that. I don't mean to mean that my 5yo boy and I never eat pizza or play video games or watch anime. But when we do it's because we are on our own, a Sunday evening, after having gotten outside with friends, and I'm too tired to play Lego. Also, alien is really a horror movie, playing hard with the nerves of the audience. Way too hard for 11yo kids if you ask me.

rdtsc 12y ago
Oh common. I won't downvote you, because that is not what it is for. But why do you presume so much. Depending on the maturity of the kids, 11 years olds can handle Alien movies.
- gbog 12y ago
  Ok. Maybe they can. But maybe they shouldn't. What good is it bringing to kids to see this? Are you better after watching a mediocre and violent entertainment movie? Good movies make you better. I don't think there is any good reason to spend precious youth time seeing movies that don't make you better. I'm kind of tiger mom here, which some may not like. But I wouldn't be surprised if data analysis could demonstrate the success of tiger moming (success being the general well being and satisfying life of the resulting adult)
  - rdtsc 12y ago
    The thing is the dad thought it wasn't just a gortesque mediocre movie, it was one of the top of his favourites. So to the parent, it seemed like they were showing them a masterpiece. Also by the discussion that ensued afterwards the kids could see a lot of cliches and parallels. "She is like Snow White". If they can make those kind of references, they can handle a few aliens jumping out of the shaddows.
icebraining 12y ago
I don't know what slumber party means but it seems completely crazy to have a bunch of kids together and play video games, eat pizza, watch horror movies. Do you want spoiled fat bored and boring kids? Because that's how you get that. Yes, I'm sure that a single party on his birthday will make him fat. For all we know he's an athlete competing on the Youth Olympics, but it matters not, that single evening will forever condemn him to be fat.
- gbog 12y ago
  Well, I used this story as a general example. I guess many kids have similar birthday parties everywhere in the U.S. And if kids watch screens (movie and video games) when they are together, I can safely guess they do it even more when they're back after school. And I'm sharing here to say that it doesn't have to be like that. Books, outdoor games, Lego, etc are much better. (I'm sceptical about sport, it's too brutal and dangerous)
  - CorbenDallas 12y ago
    sceptical about sport? too brutal and dangerous? Well...the world outside itself is too brutal and dangerous. Don't let your kids go out.
    - gbog 12y ago
      I do not buy this argument. The world is not like sports. For example, the real world is not fair. Sports for the masses is a very recent invention (less than 100 yo). Before that, we had warrior training, and a few outdoor games. The world is not like sports anyway, the most visible difference is that in the real world, the weak ugly computer geek wins in the end, which we all know here.
      - icebraining 12y ago
        You should brush up on your history of sports. The modern Olympic games alone are older than that.
__david__ 12y ago
> I don't know what slumber party means… A slumber party is a party where the guests spend the night at the hosts house. This typically involves pizza, movies, and the kids trying to stay up as late as possible. I seem to remember going to maybe 1 or 2 slumber parties a year. It's definitely a special occasion and the late night aspect of it lends itself to movies, since by the time the movies come on it's typically too late to make a bunch of noise outside. > Do you want spoiled fat bored and boring kids? Because that's how you get that. No, actually, slumber parties are not how you get that.
- gbog 12y ago
  Ok, if slumber parties are late night parites then my point need to change a bit: - Getting 11yo kids to officially stay up as late as possible is a weird idea. They will stay up late anyway but why make it official? - Many games are suitable for some kids together in the evening. I mean non-video games. - Watching a movie can be useful to cool down the atmosphere but watching an horror movie just before sleep seems not very advisable. I do not buy the argument that these kids did already see all suitable cartoons and movies. Did they really see all of Miyazaki, Chaplin, Buster Keaton, old Disneys, etc? If so,they clearly watch too much movies. - I do not think pizza is a good diet for kids (and adults), and it is better, if possible, to not link in their mind fast-food and "having nice time together". I guess it is not convenient to cook a three courses meal with many kids around, but there are other, better possibilities including bbq, picnic, salads, etc. (My reasoning is that having a nice time together is in most culture synonym for having a nice meal together, and so the food can be more important than we think in these occasions.)
  - wishinghand 12y ago
    The staying up late portion of the slumber party is more like tolerated/permitted rather than encouraged. Almost every slumber party I went to/heard of watched an action movie or a horror movie that wasn't too hardcore for our preteen selves. I'm pretty sure it's cultural at this point. Also these kids are friends of Ebert's kid. I'm pretty sure they'll be much more movie-literate than the average kid. We were a bit too old for nintendo and too young for n64 to be part of the culture where we lived, so no comment on video games. We did run around the backyard pool for quite a while.

by gbog 12y ago

rdtsc 12y ago

Oh common. I won't downvote you, because that is not what it is for. But why do you presume so much. Depending on the maturity of the kids, 11 years olds can handle Alien movies.

gbog 12y ago
Ok. Maybe they can. But maybe they shouldn't. What good is it bringing to kids to see this? Are you better after watching a mediocre and violent entertainment movie? Good movies make you better. I don't think there is any good reason to spend precious youth time seeing movies that don't make you better. I'm kind of tiger mom here, which some may not like. But I wouldn't be surprised if data analysis could demonstrate the success of tiger moming (success being the general well being and satisfying life of the resulting adult)
- rdtsc 12y ago
  The thing is the dad thought it wasn't just a gortesque mediocre movie, it was one of the top of his favourites. So to the parent, it seemed like they were showing them a masterpiece. Also by the discussion that ensued afterwards the kids could see a lot of cliches and parallels. "She is like Snow White". If they can make those kind of references, they can handle a few aliens jumping out of the shaddows.

icebraining 12y ago

I don't know what slumber party means but it seems completely crazy to have a bunch of kids together and play video games, eat pizza, watch horror movies. Do you want spoiled fat bored and boring kids? Because that's how you get that. Yes, I'm sure that a single party on his birthday will make him fat. For all we know he's an athlete competing on the Youth Olympics, but it matters not, that single evening will forever condemn him to be fat.

gbog 12y ago
Well, I used this story as a general example. I guess many kids have similar birthday parties everywhere in the U.S. And if kids watch screens (movie and video games) when they are together, I can safely guess they do it even more when they're back after school. And I'm sharing here to say that it doesn't have to be like that. Books, outdoor games, Lego, etc are much better. (I'm sceptical about sport, it's too brutal and dangerous)
- CorbenDallas 12y ago
  sceptical about sport? too brutal and dangerous? Well...the world outside itself is too brutal and dangerous. Don't let your kids go out.
  - gbog 12y ago
    I do not buy this argument. The world is not like sports. For example, the real world is not fair. Sports for the masses is a very recent invention (less than 100 yo). Before that, we had warrior training, and a few outdoor games. The world is not like sports anyway, the most visible difference is that in the real world, the weak ugly computer geek wins in the end, which we all know here.
    - icebraining 12y ago
      You should brush up on your history of sports. The modern Olympic games alone are older than that.

__david__ 12y ago

> I don't know what slumber party means… A slumber party is a party where the guests spend the night at the hosts house. This typically involves pizza, movies, and the kids trying to stay up as late as possible. I seem to remember going to maybe 1 or 2 slumber parties a year. It's definitely a special occasion and the late night aspect of it lends itself to movies, since by the time the movies come on it's typically too late to make a bunch of noise outside. > Do you want spoiled fat bored and boring kids? Because that's how you get that. No, actually, slumber parties are not how you get that.

gbog 12y ago
Ok, if slumber parties are late night parites then my point need to change a bit: - Getting 11yo kids to officially stay up as late as possible is a weird idea. They will stay up late anyway but why make it official? - Many games are suitable for some kids together in the evening. I mean non-video games. - Watching a movie can be useful to cool down the atmosphere but watching an horror movie just before sleep seems not very advisable. I do not buy the argument that these kids did already see all suitable cartoons and movies. Did they really see all of Miyazaki, Chaplin, Buster Keaton, old Disneys, etc? If so,they clearly watch too much movies. - I do not think pizza is a good diet for kids (and adults), and it is better, if possible, to not link in their mind fast-food and "having nice time together". I guess it is not convenient to cook a three courses meal with many kids around, but there are other, better possibilities including bbq, picnic, salads, etc. (My reasoning is that having a nice time together is in most culture synonym for having a nice meal together, and so the food can be more important than we think in these occasions.)
- wishinghand 12y ago
  The staying up late portion of the slumber party is more like tolerated/permitted rather than encouraged. Almost every slumber party I went to/heard of watched an action movie or a horror movie that wasn't too hardcore for our preteen selves. I'm pretty sure it's cultural at this point. Also these kids are friends of Ebert's kid. I'm pretty sure they'll be much more movie-literate than the average kid. We were a bit too old for nintendo and too young for n64 to be part of the culture where we lived, so no comment on video games. We did run around the backyard pool for quite a while.