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On the other hand, can't you still say most of new art around us is post-modern? Because else what would it be? Have we got anything after postmodernism? This

On the other hand, can't you still say most of new art around us is post-modern? Because else what would it be? Have we got anything after postmodernism? This is what makes article hilarious. It is a post-modern piece bashing what it claims to be postmodernism. UPD: In that respect, saying "I don't like postmodernism" looks as "I don't like air" That's what you've got. For today.

dragonwriter 12y ago
> On the other hand, can't you still say most of new art around us is post-modern? No. Well, you can, but its equivocation: its certainly something that arises in the period after the height of the movement called "modernism", hence, it is "post-modern" in that sense, but its not part of the particular movement which has been labelled "post-modernism". > Because else what would it be? Have we got anything after postmodernism? Yes, in both art and philosophy, there are a number of contemporary movements that are active, many of which postdate postmodernism in their origins.
- guard-of-terra 12y ago
  You don't have to label yourself postmodernist. Your own opinion about the direction of your art is irrelevant. The thing is: we haven't got anything that is not post-modern. Postmodernism is about going in circles in my opinion, and that's what we do. Can't break out.
rhizome 12y ago
It's not postmodern, it's a pastische of half-expored received wisdom. Saying Jackson Pollock is about the line is like saying Quentin Tarantino movies are about dialogue. He calls himself a philosopher but does not appear to ever ask "why?" No doubt the author would respond to criticism by saying they were only trying to start a conversation. In other words: trolling.
- guard-of-terra 12y ago
  "A pastische of half-expored received wisdom that nontheless presented to unsuspecting public" is "postmodern" in my book.
  - rhizome 12y ago
    What this essay says more than anything is that anybody can have a personal definition of postmodernism.
    - entrop13 12y ago
      Yea, so maybe it doesn't exist yet. And us talking about it is like pre enlightenment era humans talking about Modernism when Modernism is basically all the ideas that have happened as a result of the enlightenment period.

dragonwriter 12y ago

> On the other hand, can't you still say most of new art around us is post-modern? No. Well, you can, but its equivocation: its certainly something that arises in the period after the height of the movement called "modernism", hence, it is "post-modern" in that sense, but its not part of the particular movement which has been labelled "post-modernism". > Because else what would it be? Have we got anything after postmodernism? Yes, in both art and philosophy, there are a number of contemporary movements that are active, many of which postdate postmodernism in their origins.

guard-of-terra 12y ago
You don't have to label yourself postmodernist. Your own opinion about the direction of your art is irrelevant. The thing is: we haven't got anything that is not post-modern. Postmodernism is about going in circles in my opinion, and that's what we do. Can't break out.

rhizome 12y ago

It's not postmodern, it's a pastische of half-expored received wisdom. Saying Jackson Pollock is about the line is like saying Quentin Tarantino movies are about dialogue. He calls himself a philosopher but does not appear to ever ask "why?" No doubt the author would respond to criticism by saying they were only trying to start a conversation. In other words: trolling.

guard-of-terra 12y ago
"A pastische of half-expored received wisdom that nontheless presented to unsuspecting public" is "postmodern" in my book.
- rhizome 12y ago
  What this essay says more than anything is that anybody can have a personal definition of postmodernism.
  - entrop13 12y ago
    Yea, so maybe it doesn't exist yet. And us talking about it is like pre enlightenment era humans talking about Modernism when Modernism is basically all the ideas that have happened as a result of the enlightenment period.