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Hilarious when people still write articles declaiming postmodernism when it has been dead in continental philosophy for at least 15 years.

by conatus 12y ago

littletimmy 12y ago
What's the latest in continental philosophy?
- mrxd 12y ago
  Speculative realism
  - socceroos 12y ago
    Adapted relativity.
    - klausnrooster 12y ago
      I searched. Then I found you were being funny, Reddit-style. You thought you were the 2nd in the chain though!(?)
      - socceroos 12y ago
        Yep. I did. I must admit I didn't even search the parent's post as I immediately dismissed it as a joke based around an oxymoron. That's why I tried to create a subtle oxymoron myself. Oh well...
  - klausnrooster 12y ago
    I thought you were being funny, Reddit-style. Then I searched.
guard-of-terra 12y ago
On the other hand, can't you still say most of new art around us is post-modern? Because else what would it be? Have we got anything after postmodernism? This is what makes article hilarious. It is a post-modern piece bashing what it claims to be postmodernism. UPD: In that respect, saying "I don't like postmodernism" looks as "I don't like air" That's what you've got. For today.
- dragonwriter 12y ago
  > On the other hand, can't you still say most of new art around us is post-modern? No. Well, you can, but its equivocation: its certainly something that arises in the period after the height of the movement called "modernism", hence, it is "post-modern" in that sense, but its not part of the particular movement which has been labelled "post-modernism". > Because else what would it be? Have we got anything after postmodernism? Yes, in both art and philosophy, there are a number of contemporary movements that are active, many of which postdate postmodernism in their origins.
  - guard-of-terra 12y ago
    You don't have to label yourself postmodernist. Your own opinion about the direction of your art is irrelevant. The thing is: we haven't got anything that is not post-modern. Postmodernism is about going in circles in my opinion, and that's what we do. Can't break out.
- rhizome 12y ago
  It's not postmodern, it's a pastische of half-expored received wisdom. Saying Jackson Pollock is about the line is like saying Quentin Tarantino movies are about dialogue. He calls himself a philosopher but does not appear to ever ask "why?" No doubt the author would respond to criticism by saying they were only trying to start a conversation. In other words: trolling.
  - guard-of-terra 12y ago
    "A pastische of half-expored received wisdom that nontheless presented to unsuspecting public" is "postmodern" in my book.
    - rhizome 12y ago
      What this essay says more than anything is that anybody can have a personal definition of postmodernism.
_delirium 12y ago
Oddly the article is mostly attacking a style of art that doesn't even have anything to do with postmodernism in philosophy, and predates it by decades. Jackson Pollock is mainly a 1940s painter developing and responding to early 20th century trends in painting, not some kind of time-traveling artistic disciple of Jacques Derrida. You might as well throw in Picasso, Malevich, and Kandinsky if you want to criticize the 20th-century trend towards abstraction and non-representational painting.
- TheOtherHobbes 12y ago
  He's wrong about music too. A postmodern composer would certainly not ignore traditional harmony. Even if you know nothing about art, you only have to look at Wikipedia to find out more about postmodern art and how it differs from modernism.
danielam 12y ago
Here's a set of graphs showing the decline of certain academic fads (viz. postmodernism) that corroborate your claim: http://goo.gl/XgzkUG http://goo.gl/XgzkUG

Hilarious when people still write articles declaiming postmodernism when it has been dead in continental philosophy for at least 15 years.

by conatus 12y ago

Hilarious when people still write articles declaiming postmodernism when it has been dead in continental philosophy for at least 15 years.

littletimmy 12y ago

What's the latest in continental philosophy?

mrxd 12y ago
Speculative realism
- socceroos 12y ago
  Adapted relativity.
  - klausnrooster 12y ago
    I searched. Then I found you were being funny, Reddit-style. You thought you were the 2nd in the chain though!(?)
    - socceroos 12y ago
      Yep. I did. I must admit I didn't even search the parent's post as I immediately dismissed it as a joke based around an oxymoron. That's why I tried to create a subtle oxymoron myself. Oh well...
- klausnrooster 12y ago
  I thought you were being funny, Reddit-style. Then I searched.

guard-of-terra 12y ago

On the other hand, can't you still say most of new art around us is post-modern? Because else what would it be? Have we got anything after postmodernism? This is what makes article hilarious. It is a post-modern piece bashing what it claims to be postmodernism. UPD: In that respect, saying "I don't like postmodernism" looks as "I don't like air" That's what you've got. For today.

dragonwriter 12y ago
> On the other hand, can't you still say most of new art around us is post-modern? No. Well, you can, but its equivocation: its certainly something that arises in the period after the height of the movement called "modernism", hence, it is "post-modern" in that sense, but its not part of the particular movement which has been labelled "post-modernism". > Because else what would it be? Have we got anything after postmodernism? Yes, in both art and philosophy, there are a number of contemporary movements that are active, many of which postdate postmodernism in their origins.
- guard-of-terra 12y ago
  You don't have to label yourself postmodernist. Your own opinion about the direction of your art is irrelevant. The thing is: we haven't got anything that is not post-modern. Postmodernism is about going in circles in my opinion, and that's what we do. Can't break out.
rhizome 12y ago
It's not postmodern, it's a pastische of half-expored received wisdom. Saying Jackson Pollock is about the line is like saying Quentin Tarantino movies are about dialogue. He calls himself a philosopher but does not appear to ever ask "why?" No doubt the author would respond to criticism by saying they were only trying to start a conversation. In other words: trolling.
- guard-of-terra 12y ago
  "A pastische of half-expored received wisdom that nontheless presented to unsuspecting public" is "postmodern" in my book.
  - rhizome 12y ago
    What this essay says more than anything is that anybody can have a personal definition of postmodernism.

_delirium 12y ago

Oddly the article is mostly attacking a style of art that doesn't even have anything to do with postmodernism in philosophy, and predates it by decades. Jackson Pollock is mainly a 1940s painter developing and responding to early 20th century trends in painting, not some kind of time-traveling artistic disciple of Jacques Derrida. You might as well throw in Picasso, Malevich, and Kandinsky if you want to criticize the 20th-century trend towards abstraction and non-representational painting.

TheOtherHobbes 12y ago
He's wrong about music too. A postmodern composer would certainly not ignore traditional harmony. Even if you know nothing about art, you only have to look at Wikipedia to find out more about postmodern art and how it differs from modernism.

danielam 12y ago

Here's a set of graphs showing the decline of certain academic fads (viz. postmodernism) that corroborate your claim: http://goo.gl/XgzkUG http://goo.gl/XgzkUG