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"city driving" Then we get into the argument of what constitutes city driving and that gets fun. What's a city. Is a road connecting two roads a city road? Wha

"city driving" Then we get into the argument of what constitutes city driving and that gets fun. What's a city. Is a road connecting two roads a city road? What if it has side-walks or a bike lane? What about the small town that has a bike lane, too? We'd have to see a case-by-case basis of the speed limit in a given location to give an appropriate speed limit for an area. .. I wrote that, but now I'm thinking that if we had a reasonable, almost static speed limit for driving inside a city, then that would be one less thing the driver has to think about while driving in the city, so that would be good. Some sort of testing would be needed to decide on an appropriate speed, but I imagine somewhere between 25 and 35 would prove to be a good speed.

TeMPOraL 12y ago
> We'd have to see a case-by-case basis of the speed limit in a given location to give an appropriate speed limit for an area. Doesn't matter. Just have a speed limit and make people obey it, and then let the traffic engineers run simulations and adjust those limits to maximize flow and minimize accident rates. But when people have a habitual disregard of speed limits[0], determining the optimal value of those limits is nigh impossible. [0] - I don't know what's the driving culture in the US, but in Poland - where I live - most drivers show total disregard for speed limits and driving rules. They think they're the smartest, and that no accident can happen to them.
- mytochar 12y ago
  "let the traffic engineers run simulations and adjust those limits to maximize flow and minimize accident rates" Wasn't there a discussion about how it's hard to raise a speed limit in an area? If the safe / max flow speed turns out to be higher than it currently is, I suspect it would be hard to get it raised. I am in great support of this idea, though.. I'd also like more aggressive variable speed limits instead of "60 all the time, between bone-dry land and torrential rain"
  - TeMPOraL 12y ago
    I don't recall that discussion, but it would be great if you or someone else could post a link to it.
jrockway 12y ago
The argument is pretty easy in New York: city driving is driving within the city limits, which are largely defined by islands. Exceptions are made for fully-grade separated highways.

TeMPOraL 12y ago

> We'd have to see a case-by-case basis of the speed limit in a given location to give an appropriate speed limit for an area. Doesn't matter. Just have a speed limit and make people obey it, and then let the traffic engineers run simulations and adjust those limits to maximize flow and minimize accident rates. But when people have a habitual disregard of speed limits[0], determining the optimal value of those limits is nigh impossible. [0] - I don't know what's the driving culture in the US, but in Poland - where I live - most drivers show total disregard for speed limits and driving rules. They think they're the smartest, and that no accident can happen to them.

mytochar 12y ago
"let the traffic engineers run simulations and adjust those limits to maximize flow and minimize accident rates" Wasn't there a discussion about how it's hard to raise a speed limit in an area? If the safe / max flow speed turns out to be higher than it currently is, I suspect it would be hard to get it raised. I am in great support of this idea, though.. I'd also like more aggressive variable speed limits instead of "60 all the time, between bone-dry land and torrential rain"
- TeMPOraL 12y ago
  I don't recall that discussion, but it would be great if you or someone else could post a link to it.

jrockway 12y ago

The argument is pretty easy in New York: city driving is driving within the city limits, which are largely defined by islands. Exceptions are made for fully-grade separated highways.