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Drama? You called me "willfully ignorant." That's an insult. I'll note you haven't actually engaged me in conversation here, AT ALL. All you've done is name

Drama? You called me "willfully ignorant." That's an insult. I'll note you haven't actually engaged me in conversation here, AT ALL. All you've done is name-called, and then criticized me. Can't you see how the combination of a secure net, PLUS a free market where you are free to not take a job, results in people having jobs that they want? As in, "Problem solved." The problem is not that there are jobs that you find degrading - the problem is there's no safety net, so people HAVE TO TAKE THOSE JOBS. Or do you want ignore the actual topic, and just poke me with a stick, some more?

wpietri 12y ago
No, I said a comment was an example of the willful ignorance the previous poster was pointing out. You may or may not be personally ignorant; I couldn't know. But that comment ignored the actual reality. The reality here that people are not always free to not take jobs. It is something the HN glibertarian contingent continually ignores, which is precisely the point bendoernberg when you jumped in. The problem is not solved until it is actually solved, not just because it might be solved in some imaginary world you are partial to. Engagement in conversation is not something you are entitled to. It is earned. You seem to think you're entitled to make facile comments and then not have those comments challenged. And when they are, you turn it into personal drama apparently so that you don't have to face dealing with what you've actually said. I have no idea why you think that makes you an appealing person to have a conversation with.
- VikingCoder 12y ago
  > And when they are, you turn it into personal drama apparently so that you don't have to face dealing with what you've actually said. That was me explaining the background behind my reasoning. Including personal anecdotes. Personal anecdotes are emotional, and you call it drama instead. You still haven't engaged the topic, other than to say that my proposed solution is "some imaginary world." Yes, PROPOSED solutions are "imaginary worlds" until you act on them. That's how that works. I get that you didn't like my first comment, and I agree I didn't explain my entire world-view well in 140 characters. When I tried to go deeper into my world-view, I was met with nothing but insults and meta-discussion. I'm not interested in either.

wpietri 12y ago

No, I said a comment was an example of the willful ignorance the previous poster was pointing out. You may or may not be personally ignorant; I couldn't know. But that comment ignored the actual reality. The reality here that people are not always free to not take jobs. It is something the HN glibertarian contingent continually ignores, which is precisely the point bendoernberg when you jumped in. The problem is not solved until it is actually solved, not just because it might be solved in some imaginary world you are partial to. Engagement in conversation is not something you are entitled to. It is earned. You seem to think you're entitled to make facile comments and then not have those comments challenged. And when they are, you turn it into personal drama apparently so that you don't have to face dealing with what you've actually said. I have no idea why you think that makes you an appealing person to have a conversation with.

VikingCoder 12y ago
> And when they are, you turn it into personal drama apparently so that you don't have to face dealing with what you've actually said. That was me explaining the background behind my reasoning. Including personal anecdotes. Personal anecdotes are emotional, and you call it drama instead. You still haven't engaged the topic, other than to say that my proposed solution is "some imaginary world." Yes, PROPOSED solutions are "imaginary worlds" until you act on them. That's how that works. I get that you didn't like my first comment, and I agree I didn't explain my entire world-view well in 140 characters. When I tried to go deeper into my world-view, I was met with nothing but insults and meta-discussion. I'm not interested in either.