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Live Sails.js Course

96 points by particlebanana 12y ago

hgezim 12y ago
What's the cost?
- NikolaTesla 12y ago
  It's free.
- cvander 12y ago
  Christian from Platzi. We're creating livestreamed classes with great companies doing stuff for devs, designers and makers. We've had Sam Altman talking about Startups and the guys from Gitlab. Today we have Mike McNeil teaching Sails.js. What else would you like to learn?
  - mycroft-holmes 12y ago
    The cost.
    - freddier 12y ago
      It's truly free. Is that weird?
      - deleted 12y ago
        [deleted]
      - jonesetc 12y ago
        Free isn't weird, but it was no where to be found in that response.
      - resurge 12y ago
        The 3 courses that are available in English seem to be freely accessible, but in their FAQ it is mentioned that you require a monthly/yearly subscription [1]. So I'm a bit confused. [1]: https://courses.platzi.com/frequently-asked-questions/#how-it-works https://courses.platzi.com/frequently-asked-questions/#how-i...
  - alejoriveralara 12y ago
    You guys are putting out some amazing courses. Congrats! React.js would be pretty cool too.
- yazaddaruvala 12y ago
  It think this answers it: https://courses.platzi.com/frequently-asked-questions/#permanencia https://courses.platzi.com/frequently-asked-questions/#perma...
- freddier 12y ago
  It's free. It is free. We have a subscription plan for long courses on big topics, but haven't launched that yet. This class is free and it'll be free forever. The recorded version too.
methehack 12y ago
Does anyone have any experience with sails?
- particlebanana 12y ago
  I'm on the core team and can help answer any questions you have.
  - methehack 12y ago
    Cool! Thanks for the offer to answer further questions. When I google for sails, as you're probably aware, I come across this article from more than a year ago: http://nathanleclaire.com/blog/2013/12/28/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-sails-dot-js-realtime-javascript-mvc-framework/ http://nathanleclaire.com/blog/2013/12/28/the-good-the-bad-a... It's a "good, bad, ugly" article, but it's old. Care to comment on any of the issues mentioned in the "bad and ugly" parts. Specifically, I wonder about the (alleged, possibly old) lack of Waterline ORM support for associations / relational data. I'm hoping that's a softball question. I love seeing new approaches succeed!
    - particlebanana 12y ago
      Version 0.10 of Waterline now supports associations. It's not as robust as I would like it but its iterative and it's getting better all the time. As for issues piling up thats something that is tough to solve. There are only a handful of us and we try our best to get to issues in a timely manner but like any large open source project it's a battle. Our builds are also passing now :) https://travis-ci.org/balderdashy/sails/builds https://travis-ci.org/balderdashy/sails/builds
- gotwilly 12y ago
  Yes, I have several production applications built on sails. It's wonderful, especially with the v0.10 improvements.
- liviu 12y ago
  I use Sails.js in production for few products were I work. Basically it's just Express well structured and organised with some fancy features and nice CLI. L.E. If anyone is interested how to replace Waterline with Mongoose into a Sails project, let me know. I did that a project.
Tyguy7 12y ago
I'm really glad to see this. I've build a few apps with Sails.js and I LOVE it, but the documentation isn't great, and there hasn't been too many solid learning resources. This is good news.
- Raphael 12y ago
  Why are they bothering to teach a class on it before writing the documentation?
Anisa_Mirza 12y ago
I'm tuned in and loving the interactive experience so far. Congrats to Team Platzi on creating something that will truly change the future of online learning.
mdevere 12y ago
Hi guys. Interesting format. Are you going through YC at the moment? What are your future plans?
- freddier 12y ago
  We had a live class with Sam Altman two weeks ago. And Gitlab and Sails.js this week. We're almost there for classes with Docker, RethinkDB and Stripe. And then, we hope to do a full course on either React.js and JS app dev or Social Media Marketing and Community Management. Still debating that. What do you guys think?
  - joshuahornby 12y ago
    The react series is definitely something I am interested in. Do you have a newsletter I can sign up for?
    - freddier 12y ago
      Just sign up at Platzi: https://courses.platzi.com/ https://courses.platzi.com/
  - wyclif 12y ago
    Just a heads up re: English in the FAQ. You want to use "paid" not "payed." https://courses.platzi.com/frequently-asked-questions/#como-funciona https://courses.platzi.com/frequently-asked-questions/#como-...
    - freddier 12y ago
      AAAAAAAaaoook, yeah, we can fix that. It seems we have more weird issues in our FAQ besides that. Thank you wyclif, we'll fix it asap.
  - chrisabrams 12y ago
    Please please do a RethinkDB class :)
cw0 12y ago
The join button is completely broken in Chrome beta.
- chriswitts 12y ago
  It's also broken in Chrome v40
iLoch 12y ago
My Sails.js wishlist: - Support for transactions - Predictable data binding for raw SQL queries (and just a more verbose DSL for the ORM in general - recently used Laravel and I was in awe of how much better it was -- I mean I can't even ask a database how many cats with blue eyes Suzie has without loading the rows into memory) - Better support for database migrations, and better support for individual databases (generally improved adapters for each database -- composite indexes, and proper data types are two examples here) - Support for deep relational data fetching - Support for a LINQ-like IQueryable style of queries (perhaps using promises) -- for those unfamiliar with using LINQ (and specifically do DB operations), LINQ allows you to write and operate on queries with deferred execution until such point that the data is made available. What this roughly translates to is writing code and having it be turned into SQL by the ORM and only querying the database once the entire query has been built. - Better sockets integration - Integrated cache I think this should speak volumes about Sails' readiness for production. I don't mean to harp on Balderdashy, they've done great work - but there's so much more to do. Right now if I wanted to start a new project I'd have a hard time choosing Sails over Laravel. They may be different languages but for many use cases I've seen the same or better performance from Laravel on HHVM. I honestly don't know how anyone can say they're loving it in production while these problems have remained unsolved. Every time I need to do something in my Sails application that strays from the most basic of operations, I end up having to write raw SQL or write a module in order to use sockets in any meaningful way. Personally, I'll be sticking to smaller Node.js libraries for a while yet. Not because I think Sails is bad, but because it's simply not ready.
- particlebanana 12y ago
  Sails is very modular, if you wanted to replace the ORM with something else you could just replace the Waterline hook. Waterline is still pretty young and all of these features would be great to get added! We are always looking to add new contributors if anyone would like to help move some of these features along.
  - iLoch 12y ago
    Thanks Cody, I appreciate the reply.
freddier 12y ago
The livestreaming of the class is over now. But we'll upload the recordings ASAP to: https://courses.platzi.com/classes/develop-apps-sails-js/ https://courses.platzi.com/classes/develop-apps-sails-js/ All your feedback will be welcome, thanks!
c4n4rd 12y ago
Too bad it seems you can only join with Tweeter or FB account.
- cvander 12y ago
  We're working on more options. Should we include github or an email/password login first?
  - sinaa 12y ago
    Definitely email/password login first.
  - pmontra 12y ago
    Email / password please, before anything else. As a rule I don't signup any service unless it makes me create an account separate from any other one I have. My password manager remembers them for me (keepassx).
NIL8 12y ago
Couple of things here: 1. The site and the courses look great but, why can't I sign up without a Facebook or Twitter account? This one issue was enough for me to leave the site. I compartmentalize my web affairs for many reasons and keeping my online accounts separate is very important for me. I'm writing this to encourage you (and others) to reconsider this practice. 2. I can see the icon that says "Beginner," but that doesn't tell me much. In your FAQ, I would recommend expounding on this. Beginner is too ambiguous.

hgezim 12y ago

What's the cost?

NikolaTesla 12y ago
It's free.
cvander 12y ago
Christian from Platzi. We're creating livestreamed classes with great companies doing stuff for devs, designers and makers. We've had Sam Altman talking about Startups and the guys from Gitlab. Today we have Mike McNeil teaching Sails.js. What else would you like to learn?
- mycroft-holmes 12y ago
  The cost.
  - freddier 12y ago
    It's truly free. Is that weird?
    - deleted 12y ago
      [deleted]
    - jonesetc 12y ago
      Free isn't weird, but it was no where to be found in that response.
    - resurge 12y ago
      The 3 courses that are available in English seem to be freely accessible, but in their FAQ it is mentioned that you require a monthly/yearly subscription [1]. So I'm a bit confused. [1]: https://courses.platzi.com/frequently-asked-questions/#how-it-works https://courses.platzi.com/frequently-asked-questions/#how-i...
- alejoriveralara 12y ago
  You guys are putting out some amazing courses. Congrats! React.js would be pretty cool too.
yazaddaruvala 12y ago
It think this answers it: https://courses.platzi.com/frequently-asked-questions/#permanencia https://courses.platzi.com/frequently-asked-questions/#perma...
freddier 12y ago
It's free. It is free. We have a subscription plan for long courses on big topics, but haven't launched that yet. This class is free and it'll be free forever. The recorded version too.

methehack 12y ago

Does anyone have any experience with sails?

particlebanana 12y ago
I'm on the core team and can help answer any questions you have.
- methehack 12y ago
  Cool! Thanks for the offer to answer further questions. When I google for sails, as you're probably aware, I come across this article from more than a year ago: http://nathanleclaire.com/blog/2013/12/28/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-sails-dot-js-realtime-javascript-mvc-framework/ http://nathanleclaire.com/blog/2013/12/28/the-good-the-bad-a... It's a "good, bad, ugly" article, but it's old. Care to comment on any of the issues mentioned in the "bad and ugly" parts. Specifically, I wonder about the (alleged, possibly old) lack of Waterline ORM support for associations / relational data. I'm hoping that's a softball question. I love seeing new approaches succeed!
  - particlebanana 12y ago
    Version 0.10 of Waterline now supports associations. It's not as robust as I would like it but its iterative and it's getting better all the time. As for issues piling up thats something that is tough to solve. There are only a handful of us and we try our best to get to issues in a timely manner but like any large open source project it's a battle. Our builds are also passing now :) https://travis-ci.org/balderdashy/sails/builds https://travis-ci.org/balderdashy/sails/builds
gotwilly 12y ago
Yes, I have several production applications built on sails. It's wonderful, especially with the v0.10 improvements.
liviu 12y ago
I use Sails.js in production for few products were I work. Basically it's just Express well structured and organised with some fancy features and nice CLI. L.E. If anyone is interested how to replace Waterline with Mongoose into a Sails project, let me know. I did that a project.

Tyguy7 12y ago

I'm really glad to see this. I've build a few apps with Sails.js and I LOVE it, but the documentation isn't great, and there hasn't been too many solid learning resources. This is good news.

Raphael 12y ago
Why are they bothering to teach a class on it before writing the documentation?

Anisa_Mirza 12y ago

I'm tuned in and loving the interactive experience so far. Congrats to Team Platzi on creating something that will truly change the future of online learning.

mdevere 12y ago

Hi guys. Interesting format. Are you going through YC at the moment? What are your future plans?

freddier 12y ago
We had a live class with Sam Altman two weeks ago. And Gitlab and Sails.js this week. We're almost there for classes with Docker, RethinkDB and Stripe. And then, we hope to do a full course on either React.js and JS app dev or Social Media Marketing and Community Management. Still debating that. What do you guys think?
- joshuahornby 12y ago
  The react series is definitely something I am interested in. Do you have a newsletter I can sign up for?
  - freddier 12y ago
    Just sign up at Platzi: https://courses.platzi.com/ https://courses.platzi.com/
- wyclif 12y ago
  Just a heads up re: English in the FAQ. You want to use "paid" not "payed." https://courses.platzi.com/frequently-asked-questions/#como-funciona https://courses.platzi.com/frequently-asked-questions/#como-...
  - freddier 12y ago
    AAAAAAAaaoook, yeah, we can fix that. It seems we have more weird issues in our FAQ besides that. Thank you wyclif, we'll fix it asap.
- chrisabrams 12y ago
  Please please do a RethinkDB class :)

cw0 12y ago

The join button is completely broken in Chrome beta.

chriswitts 12y ago
It's also broken in Chrome v40

iLoch 12y ago

My Sails.js wishlist: - Support for transactions - Predictable data binding for raw SQL queries (and just a more verbose DSL for the ORM in general - recently used Laravel and I was in awe of how much better it was -- I mean I can't even ask a database how many cats with blue eyes Suzie has without loading the rows into memory) - Better support for database migrations, and better support for individual databases (generally improved adapters for each database -- composite indexes, and proper data types are two examples here) - Support for deep relational data fetching - Support for a LINQ-like IQueryable style of queries (perhaps using promises) -- for those unfamiliar with using LINQ (and specifically do DB operations), LINQ allows you to write and operate on queries with deferred execution until such point that the data is made available. What this roughly translates to is writing code and having it be turned into SQL by the ORM and only querying the database once the entire query has been built. - Better sockets integration - Integrated cache I think this should speak volumes about Sails' readiness for production. I don't mean to harp on Balderdashy, they've done great work - but there's so much more to do. Right now if I wanted to start a new project I'd have a hard time choosing Sails over Laravel. They may be different languages but for many use cases I've seen the same or better performance from Laravel on HHVM. I honestly don't know how anyone can say they're loving it in production while these problems have remained unsolved. Every time I need to do something in my Sails application that strays from the most basic of operations, I end up having to write raw SQL or write a module in order to use sockets in any meaningful way. Personally, I'll be sticking to smaller Node.js libraries for a while yet. Not because I think Sails is bad, but because it's simply not ready.

particlebanana 12y ago
Sails is very modular, if you wanted to replace the ORM with something else you could just replace the Waterline hook. Waterline is still pretty young and all of these features would be great to get added! We are always looking to add new contributors if anyone would like to help move some of these features along.
- iLoch 12y ago
  Thanks Cody, I appreciate the reply.

freddier 12y ago

The livestreaming of the class is over now. But we'll upload the recordings ASAP to: https://courses.platzi.com/classes/develop-apps-sails-js/ https://courses.platzi.com/classes/develop-apps-sails-js/ All your feedback will be welcome, thanks!

c4n4rd 12y ago

Too bad it seems you can only join with Tweeter or FB account.

cvander 12y ago
We're working on more options. Should we include github or an email/password login first?
- sinaa 12y ago
  Definitely email/password login first.
- pmontra 12y ago
  Email / password please, before anything else. As a rule I don't signup any service unless it makes me create an account separate from any other one I have. My password manager remembers them for me (keepassx).

NIL8 12y ago

Couple of things here: 1. The site and the courses look great but, why can't I sign up without a Facebook or Twitter account? This one issue was enough for me to leave the site. I compartmentalize my web affairs for many reasons and keeping my online accounts separate is very important for me. I'm writing this to encourage you (and others) to reconsider this practice. 2. I can see the icon that says "Beginner," but that doesn't tell me much. In your FAQ, I would recommend expounding on this. Beginner is too ambiguous.