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> Germany has long been our #1 country for usage I also heard that Firefox enjoys a major market share in Germany (a not-that-reliable source is http://www.quo

by xiaq 12y ago

> Germany has long been our #1 country for usage I also heard that Firefox enjoys a major market share in Germany (a not-that-reliable source is http://www.quora.com/Why-is-Internet-Explorers-market-share-so-small-in-Germany?share=1 http://www.quora.com/Why-is-Internet-Explorers-market-share-...). I even heard from a fellow German university student that "everyone [in Germany] uses Firefox" - obviously an exaggeration, but there must be some truth in it. Anyone has an explanation (preferably backed by data) for the popularity of Mozilla software in Germany?

maxerickson 12y ago
No data, but they are unusually allergic to Google. For example, they have more rules for Streetview. Also, German authorities were some of the first objectors to their wifi data collection: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/wifi-data-collection-update.html http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/wifi-data-collection-...
- Silhouette 12y ago
  This is hardly surprising, if you consider historical context. Concerns about surveillance and privacy in Germany, and to some extent across most of Europe, are one of the few topics where Godwin's Law does not apply.
  - jrochkind1 12y ago
    Really, discussions about surveillance and privacy in Germany are one of the few places where nobody ever makes a comparison to the nazi's? That seems surprising.
    - Silhouette 12y ago
      I rather meant that such comparisons were made for legitimate reasons and so would not necessarily end the conversation on the assumption that the person resorting to them was just trolling.
fdsary 12y ago
I'm a foreigner living in Germany, and can tell you this is true. 'Everyone' uses Firefox. They also really like these 2-click-social-media-buttons, because it apparently gives better privacy (load the tracking/tweeting/liking script upon the click of a button, and when clicking again run the like/tweet function) http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Fuer-mehr-Datenschutz-Neue-Version-der-2-Klick-Empfehlungsbuttons-2101045.html http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Fuer-mehr-Datenschutz.... Which seems like security theatre to me. Why not just load the script on the first click, and then run the tweet function immediately after?
- untog 12y ago
  Why not just load the script on the first click, and then run the tweet function immediately after? Because the tweet function invokes a pop-up window, which browsers won't allow unless attached to a click function.
- detaro 12y ago
  As a German, not everybody uses Firefox. Chrome is quite popular as well, many people just don't change these things very often and got Firefox before Chrome was a thing. Took long enough to get them off Internet Explorer ;) > then run the tweet function immediately after? The site should not be able to do so, because if that worked shady sites simply would trigger "like" or "tweet" for visitors to generate spam. Loading the original widget is the only way that is accepted by the social networks.

by xiaq 12y ago

maxerickson 12y ago

No data, but they are unusually allergic to Google. For example, they have more rules for Streetview. Also, German authorities were some of the first objectors to their wifi data collection: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/wifi-data-collection-update.html http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/wifi-data-collection-...

Silhouette 12y ago
This is hardly surprising, if you consider historical context. Concerns about surveillance and privacy in Germany, and to some extent across most of Europe, are one of the few topics where Godwin's Law does not apply.
- jrochkind1 12y ago
  Really, discussions about surveillance and privacy in Germany are one of the few places where nobody ever makes a comparison to the nazi's? That seems surprising.
  - Silhouette 12y ago
    I rather meant that such comparisons were made for legitimate reasons and so would not necessarily end the conversation on the assumption that the person resorting to them was just trolling.

fdsary 12y ago

I'm a foreigner living in Germany, and can tell you this is true. 'Everyone' uses Firefox. They also really like these 2-click-social-media-buttons, because it apparently gives better privacy (load the tracking/tweeting/liking script upon the click of a button, and when clicking again run the like/tweet function) http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Fuer-mehr-Datenschutz-Neue-Version-der-2-Klick-Empfehlungsbuttons-2101045.html http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Fuer-mehr-Datenschutz.... Which seems like security theatre to me. Why not just load the script on the first click, and then run the tweet function immediately after?

untog 12y ago
Why not just load the script on the first click, and then run the tweet function immediately after? Because the tweet function invokes a pop-up window, which browsers won't allow unless attached to a click function.
detaro 12y ago
As a German, not everybody uses Firefox. Chrome is quite popular as well, many people just don't change these things very often and got Firefox before Chrome was a thing. Took long enough to get them off Internet Explorer ;) > then run the tweet function immediately after? The site should not be able to do so, because if that worked shady sites simply would trigger "like" or "tweet" for visitors to generate spam. Loading the original widget is the only way that is accepted by the social networks.