If that's the case, then there is still hope for Ruby enthusiasts. PHP has come out the other end, mostly by splitting into separate communities that only have

If that's the case, then there is still hope for Ruby enthusiasts. PHP has come out the other end, mostly by splitting into separate communities that only have the language in common. The issue with Ruby is that it is so tightly associated with simple architecture of Rails. Nothing wrong with Rails in itself, but for many complex projects that require architectural solutions Rails doesn't support, Rails + inexperienced devs usually results in spaghetti code. Ruby is fine, but RoR is toxic.