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It's all about .Net in the UK. Go learn it. I can walk out of a contract on a Friday and start another on a Monday and it's been like this forever and the marke
by cssmoo 12y ago
It's all about .Net in the UK. Go learn it. I can walk out of a contract on a Friday and start another on a Monday and it's been like this forever and the market demand is increasing and the staff supply declining.
Can't lose.
- BSousa 12y agoNot in the uk but interested in the job market there and I agree as I consider it my 'backup' in case things go south for me. The number of .net jobs vs anything else is just ridiculous. If you want to work in London and be secure in your job or job search, .net is where you want to be.
- bnastic 12y agoThis depends on the industry, e.g. anyone doing anything remotely performance oriented is not touching Windows unless they have a legacy stack to maintain.
- cssmoo 12y agoTBH that's a pretty small part of the market though. 99% of all LOB apps are CRUD stuff and integration.
- skc 12y agoWhen you say "performance oriented" what do you mean anyway? But even humoring you here, I would argue that the very, very vast majority of contracts out there are not "performance oriented" and so the point may be moot.
- Iftheshoefits 12y agoWhat about pay, though? Here in the US, at least from my perspective, .NET contracting is slightly better than PHP contracting. That is, most of the .NET jobs are (relatively) poor paying with the kind of cheap, demanding client we've all had horror story experiences with. Exceptions would be in finance, where you get to be treated like shit because you aren't a tradeer. One of my colleagues lumped "webdev" (of the sleazy WP theme shop variety) and .NET jobs in the same category as a "cesspool". I can't disagree.
- cssmoo 12y agoPay is good. If you're good at it, it's pretty amazing. You can pull £650/day on contract if you know your shit. If you don't but can drive Visual Studio, £400/day is easy.
- pbowyer 12y agoAre those figures for London, or are you seeing them UK-wide?
- cssmoo 12y agoTake 20-30% off for outside M25 i.e. in line with cost of living reduction.
- petercooper 12y agoAnd another 20% off if any further north than Oxford or Cambridge.
- JAlexoid 12y agoPlease add a note to that £650 - financial experience required. I can pull £800 with Scala and Java. Though I am not about to sell my soul for the £200 difference to spend that on psychotherapy afterwards.
- louishk 12y agoHow much / what sort of financial experience is required?
- cssmoo 12y agoIncidentally bugger all in most cases I reckon unless you're working in trading. There's a bit of a vacuum at the moment so standards are low. Most orgs are willing to drag you through the relevant training. In all my years of working in the financial sector (NOT trading I will add!), about as complex as it got was numeric precision, rounding, equation of a line and curve fitting which was all pretty easy. Oh and deciphering lots of poorly written regulation and rules. Don't hit trading unless you like snorting coke and 100 hour weeks.
- switch007 12y agoI won't sell my soul, no matter how much it pays ;)
- cssmoo 12y agoWe're all brain prostitutes so our soul is already sold. What remains is merely comfort, which .Net provides.
- uptownJimmy 12y ago.Net is awesome. There's no need to apologize for working on a really powerful stack and making good money doing it. I've worked on Rails and Node projects, and they don't compare favorably to the power and robustness and usability of .Net. And I'd choose .Net over Java every time, even for a little less pay. .Net is hitting a really sweet spot these days.
- ukigumo 12y agoNot sure which part of the UK you are talking about, certainly not London and the City in particular.