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DNP is still somewhat popular with bodybuilders looking to cut weight. It has some very powerful side-effects though, like insomnia, sweating non-stop, and dea
by TEMPLEOS_DEV 12y ago
DNP is still somewhat popular with bodybuilders looking to cut weight.
It has some very powerful side-effects though, like insomnia, sweating non-stop, and death if you take a few extra mcg than you should have. Ephedrine and caffeine are a lot safer.
Most who have done DNP say it is one of the worst experiences of their life.
Edit: It also may be mutagenic.
- perardi 12y agoNot that I've ever taken it, because that would be illegal and wrong because drugs are bad and wrong, but if I did, it's pretty miserable at 500mg/day for multiple days. It's like suffering through a bad flu. Hot, sweaty, lethargic, gastrointestinal upset…it's unpleasant. The worst thing is the insomnia brought on by the night sweats. I live in a cold, cold Midwestern city, and I was sleeping with the windows open. But, 15 pounds down in 2 weeks. While eating like 2200cal/day.
- Killah911 12y agoHow long ago? And have you been able to keep it off?
- TEMPLEOS_DEV 12y agoIt's just calories-in-calories-out. You can keep it off if you then eat below your TDEE.
- CyberDildonics 12y agoIt isn't that simple. Fructose plays a much different role in lipogenesis than other foods.
- TEMPLEOS_DEV 12y agoThen don't eat fructose.
- WillPostForFood 12y agoExactly, it is more complicated than calories-in-calories-out.
- cbd1984 12y agoCalories in calories out is physics nothing can override or circumvent. It's a basic plausibility test. Fructose obeys the same laws as everything else. It might be harder to hit a calorie target if you eat fructose but if you do, that's it. It has to work. Anyone who disputes this is scientifically illiterate.
- seekingtruth 12y ago> Anyone who disputes this is scientifically illiterate. Well, those who possess a lower IQ are more likely to become obese. So perhaps not understanding the way the universe works is how they wind up obese in the first place. Not too surprising, then, that they would be unable to comprehend how to get themselves out of that state. And there is certainly no shortage of charlatans and mountebanks out there all too ready to lead them astray.
- seekingtruth 12y agoFor the person who downvoted: http://personal.lse.ac.uk/kanazawa/pdfs/COEDO2014.pdf http://personal.lse.ac.uk/kanazawa/pdfs/COEDO2014.pdf
- CyberDildonics 12y agoWell, speaking of illiterate, no one actually disputed that. It still is, however a gross oversimplification. Fructose is dense in calories, easily absorbed (which is calories in, not necessarily the food you swallow), contributes heavily to lipogenesis, and does not inhibit leptin, a hormone that controls hunger. Lots of data and an entertaining presentation, which starts by addressing calories in and calories out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z5X0i92OZQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z5X0i92OZQ
- aaxe 12y agoWow no.
- perardi 12y agoUm, 5 days ago, in preparation for a vacation. Again, theoretically.
- darkmighty 12y agoAny other concerning side effects, if one were to use this? (or, why is it an illegal drug?)
- TEMPLEOS_DEV 12y agoThe overheating leading to death if you dose it wrong is at the top of the list. The difference between this DNP and the DNP you can buy on the blackmarket is that the DNP used in these modern fatty-liver studies is time released in smaller doses. Users can expect to lose about ~1lb/day. But, it is very hard on you. You want to learn how to lose weight on a caloric deficit and macronutrient partitioning, about 1lb/week, and stick to a diet for at least a year before you even consider this. Otherwise, you don't have the right habits.
- johnward 12y agoDNP scares me. I don't think you ever hear much from the guys who take too much because they don't survive.