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C-51 has nothing to do with that, though. It doesn't tell CSIS to start investigating environmental groups. C-51 gives law enforcement and intelligence some sl
by engendered 12y ago
C-51 has nothing to do with that, though. It doesn't tell CSIS to start investigating environmental groups.
C-51 gives law enforcement and intelligence some slightly more modern tools. For instance, they can demand that "terroristic" material is removed from the internet (where jurisdiction applies), which is a right that they already have for child pornography and hate material, with the agreement of a judge and the minister of justice. If they become aware of a subject, they can ask that the subject's ISPs capture data pending a warrant (versus waiting for the process of the warrant and perhaps miss things).
And so on. Remarkably few who comment on C-51 have any idea what it entails, or the scope changes it offers. But they ply, ironically, exactly the sort of rhetoric of fear that the right wing plies about terrorism -- somehow having an advance ability to request data capture == All lefties are going to be locked up.
- GhotiFish 12y ago"But they ply, ironically, exactly the sort of rhetoric of fear that the right wing plies about terrorism -- somehow having an advance ability to request data capture == All lefties are going to be locked up." Drumming a rhetoric of fear is exactly what is going on now to push this bill: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/isis-recruiter-in-edmonton-enlists-canadian-woman-to-join-fight-in-syria-1.2970535 http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/isis-recruiter-in-edmonton-enli... and labeling inconvenient speech as "terroristic" is page 1 in playbook. This whole thing seems so ham-fisted that I'm amazed their are defenders of it.
- engendered 12y agoSo actual reality is "drumming a rhetoric of fear" now? Reality reported on by a fairly left news organization? Fascinating.
- maerF0x0 12y agoOne nuanced difference is the intents: CSIS was intended to capture "Foreign signals", it wasnt ever supposed to be used on Canadians. the CSE iirc does. I think they're analogous to the NSA and FBI respectively.