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Mostly depressing. Basically the Telcos are acting in the same way as the ones in the USA. But we didn't have such an uproar from the people without which, I as
by QuantumRoar 12y ago
Mostly depressing. Basically the Telcos are acting in the same way as the ones in the USA. But we didn't have such an uproar from the people without which, I assume, the new NN rules couldn't be established in the USA.
Politicians are influenced mostly from the telcos and seem to follow their line of argument. We do have some services that would violate net neutrality rules, like the circumvention of data caps sold by Deutsche Telekom (totally different from T-Mobile US) for users of Spotify.
In addition there doesn't seem to be much hope for the internet's infrastructur. Germany has one of the world's worst FTTH market penetration. It's literally non-existent. Telcos try to use the old copper lines and cable to avoid investing and they seem quite succesful in convincing the government that fibre optics is not necessary.
The last frustration came from a government agenda a few months ago. It states that until 2018 everyone should have 50MBit/s. But it doesn't state by which means or whether this applies to the downlink or peak speed or whatever. Many people fear that the telcos will meet the goal by simply putting up some LTE towers with data caps and "theoretical peak transfer rate" of 50Mbit/s.
The agenda's goal would be met, since it's formulated so vaguely. However, we are just postponing the necessary FTTH build-out, while the big telcos make stupidly high profits from infrastructure that has amortized decades ago.
There's also the issue with peering. Up until recently Deutsche Telekom was basically non-existent at the DE-CIX (Germany's largest Internet Exchange). Now they have a little band-width there. However, as Deutsche Telekom was once a state-owned company (still partially state-owned) and owns basically all copper infrastructur (ISPs can rent the last-mile), they are on a high horse and expect everyone to pay for peering, similar to Comcast.
So yeah, up until recently, Germany and the USA could have a shittiness contest when it comes to the inet. Now, the winner is more clear.
- _mulder_ 12y ago"the circumvention of data caps sold by Deutsche Telekom (totally different from T-Mobile US) for users of Spotify." This is not net neutrality, it is just Deutsche Telekom bundling a product with their subscriptions. It only becomes a net-neutrality problem if DT begin to prioritise Spotify traffic over other traffic (ie; let's allow Spotify traffic, but throttle iTunes).
- QuantumRoar 12y agoConsidering that you can't really use music streaming with the usual caps here (200MB, 500MB, 1GB, 3GB), it makes it impossible to compete with Spotify, unless you also pay DT. Therefore, in the context of mobile, all other music streaming services are essentially throttled when compared to "exclusive partners of DT."
- 72deluxe 12y agoVery informative, thank you! The more I read about the USA and other developed countries and their networks and poor mobile networks, the more I realise how fortunate I am to live here in the UK where fibre optic is rolled out for suburban areas and you generally get a mobile signal most places (apart from extreme countryside locations or in valleys).