I was trying to explain the difference between hackers, if you will, and "programmers" just going through the motions. I likened it to the difference between s

I was trying to explain the difference between hackers, if you will, and "programmers" just going through the motions. I likened it to the difference between someone who spoke a language frequently and someone who was working out of a conversational phrasebook. The thing is one cannot help but learn a language as a human being, but you can sure go through life without problem solving skills!