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> because they want to be able to charge a premium for some sites Elaborate on this plan. > and give preferential routing to some kinds of traffic. This is g

by tertius 12y ago

> because they want to be able to charge a premium for some sites Elaborate on this plan. > and give preferential routing to some kinds of traffic. This is generally how the internet works. When you say "kinds" you mean surgery in action data vs. netflix data. Or when you say "kinds" do you mean netflix data vs. ISP movie provider data. That is the same kind of data. You need to be a little more clear. The internet gives preferential routing to certain kinds of data by design. * A bunch of new accounts arguing the opposite as well.

x0x0 12y ago
The major consumer isps have been crystal clear (unless you don't wish to understand): they look at large consumer-facing internet companies and want a piece of the action. eg the recent action by Verizon to charge Netflix money to deliver Netflix to Verizon's paying customers. So if we don't want pay-to-play internet companies, we need net neutrality. Particularly given the widespread monopoly structure of home internet access.
- tertius 12y ago
  TitleII is not the solution for this problem.
  - URSpider94 12y ago
    Can you explain why not?
    - tertius 12y ago
      The FTC exists to police competition and consumer protection. TitleII is doomed to fail in court > http://techfreedom.org/post/110086459629/wheeler-ensures-fcc-will-lose-in-court-again-on http://techfreedom.org/post/110086459629/wheeler-ensures-fcc...
  - dragonwriter 12y ago
    Simply stating a conclusion is not an argument.
URSpider94 12y ago
>> because they want to be able to charge a premium for some sites >Elaborate on this plan. OK. Comcast offers their "On Demand" service over their IP network. I can consume it with their set-top box, or with an XFinity app on my XBox. The bandwidth that I use for this app does not count against any data cap that Comcast may impose, and they're also doing traffic shaping to give this on-demand content preference over what I would get with Amazon or Netflix apps sitting next to the Comcast app in my home menu. That is using their position as the last-mile provider to give their content preferential treatment. >> and give preferential routing to some kinds of traffic. >This is generally how the internet works. When you say "kinds" you mean surgery in action data vs. netflix data. Or when you say "kinds" do you mean netflix data vs. ISP movie provider data. That is the same kind of data. You need to be a little more clear. The internet gives preferential routing to certain kinds of data by design. See above. Comcast and others are already giving preferential treatment to their own video streaming services vs. other services that are streaming the same kind of content.

by tertius 12y ago

x0x0 12y ago

The major consumer isps have been crystal clear (unless you don't wish to understand): they look at large consumer-facing internet companies and want a piece of the action. eg the recent action by Verizon to charge Netflix money to deliver Netflix to Verizon's paying customers. So if we don't want pay-to-play internet companies, we need net neutrality. Particularly given the widespread monopoly structure of home internet access.

tertius 12y ago
TitleII is not the solution for this problem.
- URSpider94 12y ago
  Can you explain why not?
  - tertius 12y ago
    The FTC exists to police competition and consumer protection. TitleII is doomed to fail in court > http://techfreedom.org/post/110086459629/wheeler-ensures-fcc-will-lose-in-court-again-on http://techfreedom.org/post/110086459629/wheeler-ensures-fcc...
- dragonwriter 12y ago
  Simply stating a conclusion is not an argument.

URSpider94 12y ago

>> because they want to be able to charge a premium for some sites >Elaborate on this plan. OK. Comcast offers their "On Demand" service over their IP network. I can consume it with their set-top box, or with an XFinity app on my XBox. The bandwidth that I use for this app does not count against any data cap that Comcast may impose, and they're also doing traffic shaping to give this on-demand content preference over what I would get with Amazon or Netflix apps sitting next to the Comcast app in my home menu. That is using their position as the last-mile provider to give their content preferential treatment. >> and give preferential routing to some kinds of traffic. >This is generally how the internet works. When you say "kinds" you mean surgery in action data vs. netflix data. Or when you say "kinds" do you mean netflix data vs. ISP movie provider data. That is the same kind of data. You need to be a little more clear. The internet gives preferential routing to certain kinds of data by design. See above. Comcast and others are already giving preferential treatment to their own video streaming services vs. other services that are streaming the same kind of content.