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I would be great if an independent lab would certify equipment and software as spyware free. And it would be great if one could buy insurance to that effect on

• fspeech 12y ago
  How do you deal with interdiction?
• drivingmenuts 12y ago
  > I would be great if an independent lab would certify equipment and software as spyware free. I agree, but where would you put it such that the intelligence services of the Big-8 couldn't co-opt it? They don't always go to the owners and say "Hey, yo, mind if we put our spy stuff in your stuff?"
• LLWM 12y ago
  It's astonishing that people can still talk about such a thing as an "independent lab" with a straight face.
• PhantomGremlin 12y ago
  > I would be great if an independent lab would certify equipment and software as spyware free. That's just not possible. Devices are way too complex nowadays. Too much can be hidden. A product will have multiple ASICs, SOCs, etc. Those in themselves are too complex for any single individual to really understand them. How much effort could an independent lab put into certifying them? It would literally take man-years. How do you certify an SOC? Start with a gate level Verilog netlist? Good luck figuring out anything useful from that. You think a vendor will give an outside lab a higher level Verilog RTL to review for a design? Not likely. That's highly valuable intellectual property. About all that could be done is monitoring the software or equipment to see if there is any unexpected network activity flowing in or out. That in itself would be a difficult thing to to.