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I guess I used to run past your flat - it was on my route home from work. It could have been a very nice route, but as you say, developers had built right up t

I guess I used to run past your flat - it was on my route home from work. It could have been a very nice route, but as you say, developers had built right up to the river in places. I had to keep shuttling onto roads away from the river, and then back again. What could have been a nice place, available for all to enjoy, was spoiled to enrich a few people. What sort of city planner would choose not to have a public walkway alongside the river?

gd1 12y ago
>developers had built right up to the river in places I also run that route, and what you say isn't true. The stretch under discussion has had warehouses built up to the river's edge long before urban hipsters started writing Guardian articles. In fact, most of the developments you refer to are converted warehouses. This isn't something that has been "taken away" from the public. Of course, they could knock the buildings down and create better urban spaces, but that would probably piss off the NIMBY crowd as well, who would then start a campaign in the Guardian to get them heritage listed.
- Roritharr 12y ago
  Those places are called Wharf = WareHouse At River Front You'd think that would be a hint to some people.
  - bainsfather 12y ago
    Dictionaries disagree with you, e.g. http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/wharf http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/wharf I fear you've been taken in by some creative tour guide! A wharf does not require a wharehouse, you'd think that would be a hint to some people.
  - DanBC 12y ago
    > Wharf = WareHouse At River Front These acronyms / backronyms are almost always bogus etymologies.
- bainsfather 12y ago
  > what you say isn't true. Are you talking about the same place, North bank of the Thames? Have a look at my 'route' - those ain't all wharehouses chum - they are mostly new residential builds. https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=Thames+Path&daddr=51.501684,-0.0273382+to:51.499607,-0.0274318+to:51.4948566,-0.0278828+to:51.4936079,-0.0273624+to:51.490783,-0.0257309+to:51.4902992,-0.0253495+to:51.4897069,-0.0247322+to:51.4877704,-0.0218213+to:51.4862511,-0.010726+to:Greenwich+Foot+Tunnel&hl=en&sll=51.494737,-0.027637&sspn=0.008557,0.023378&geocode=Ff_5EQMdV1j__w%3BFXTaEQMdNpX__ynftupaxgJ2SDGhBzxd-_Y9lQ%3BFVfSEQMd2ZT__yk3KAXMxgJ2SDEWgJy1og4gBA%3BFci_EQMdFpP__ykJnh_AwQJ2SDHoIz2LjfHkRg%3BFee6EQMdHpX__ykhTs596gJ2SDGevx_GW4_JSw%3BFd-vEQMdfpv__yldiusD6wJ2SDHJKhbHd1vzkw%3BFfutEQMd-5z__ym329oU6wJ2SDFHD9bmYU5Izw%3BFaqrEQMdZJ___ykb0-1Q6wJ2SDG1oGEfi9-aBA%3BFRqkEQMdw6r__ym5q3xCkwJ2SDGRMICGacyXvA%3BFSueEQMdGtb__ynjWjJ9mgJ2SDF3WnMzVJcyDg%3BFXyeEQMdTtv__w&t=h&gl=uk&dirflg=w&mra=dpe&mrsp=3&sz=17&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9&z=17 https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=Thames+Path&daddr=51.50...
- crucini 12y ago
  To be fair, the article does state that there was no golden age of access, and things were worse when the docks were in operation.

gd1 12y ago

>developers had built right up to the river in places I also run that route, and what you say isn't true. The stretch under discussion has had warehouses built up to the river's edge long before urban hipsters started writing Guardian articles. In fact, most of the developments you refer to are converted warehouses. This isn't something that has been "taken away" from the public. Of course, they could knock the buildings down and create better urban spaces, but that would probably piss off the NIMBY crowd as well, who would then start a campaign in the Guardian to get them heritage listed.

Roritharr 12y ago
Those places are called Wharf = WareHouse At River Front You'd think that would be a hint to some people.
- bainsfather 12y ago
  Dictionaries disagree with you, e.g. http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/wharf http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/wharf I fear you've been taken in by some creative tour guide! A wharf does not require a wharehouse, you'd think that would be a hint to some people.
- DanBC 12y ago
  > Wharf = WareHouse At River Front These acronyms / backronyms are almost always bogus etymologies.
bainsfather 12y ago
> what you say isn't true. Are you talking about the same place, North bank of the Thames? Have a look at my 'route' - those ain't all wharehouses chum - they are mostly new residential builds. https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=Thames+Path&daddr=51.501684,-0.0273382+to:51.499607,-0.0274318+to:51.4948566,-0.0278828+to:51.4936079,-0.0273624+to:51.490783,-0.0257309+to:51.4902992,-0.0253495+to:51.4897069,-0.0247322+to:51.4877704,-0.0218213+to:51.4862511,-0.010726+to:Greenwich+Foot+Tunnel&hl=en&sll=51.494737,-0.027637&sspn=0.008557,0.023378&geocode=Ff_5EQMdV1j__w%3BFXTaEQMdNpX__ynftupaxgJ2SDGhBzxd-_Y9lQ%3BFVfSEQMd2ZT__yk3KAXMxgJ2SDEWgJy1og4gBA%3BFci_EQMdFpP__ykJnh_AwQJ2SDHoIz2LjfHkRg%3BFee6EQMdHpX__ykhTs596gJ2SDGevx_GW4_JSw%3BFd-vEQMdfpv__yldiusD6wJ2SDHJKhbHd1vzkw%3BFfutEQMd-5z__ym329oU6wJ2SDFHD9bmYU5Izw%3BFaqrEQMdZJ___ykb0-1Q6wJ2SDG1oGEfi9-aBA%3BFRqkEQMdw6r__ym5q3xCkwJ2SDGRMICGacyXvA%3BFSueEQMdGtb__ynjWjJ9mgJ2SDF3WnMzVJcyDg%3BFXyeEQMdTtv__w&t=h&gl=uk&dirflg=w&mra=dpe&mrsp=3&sz=17&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9&z=17 https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=Thames+Path&daddr=51.50...
crucini 12y ago
To be fair, the article does state that there was no golden age of access, and things were worse when the docks were in operation.