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"virtually no lesser-of-two-evils narrative in '08 or '12 from the American left" Maybe not at rallies, but if you read lefty commentary or conversation sites
by WildUtah 12y ago
"virtually no lesser-of-two-evils narrative in '08 or '12 from the American left"
Maybe not at rallies, but if you read lefty commentary or conversation sites it was nothing but lesser-of-two-evils in '08 and '12. Likewise on the right. Thoughtful people always know the score and Obama has been as hopey and changey as anyone could reasonably hope for -- specifically, he has been a little better than the one before him.
- x0x0 12y agoClaiming Obama is only a little better than Bush is a little silly. We have obamacare; for all it's flaws, we've both massively reduced the number of uninsured in the United States and slowed the growth of health costs. It's a huge win, and while I would have loved single payer -- hmos and all health insurers are nothing but parasites -- the fact is he didn't have the votes in the Senate and Obama did as well as possible. I'm pretty confident that in the 20 year timeframe we'll have something pretty close to single payer, whether it's true single payer or strong caps on how much resources insurers can suck. Obamacare is also a massive gift to anyone who would like to start a company, both for the original founders and for early employees. We have many fewer troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. While I wish Obama were much better, those are two big differences from Bush.