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Minor point: conservatives and liberals love their guns. What they say publicly doesn't change the fact that the gun manufacturers hold huge political power in

Minor point: conservatives and liberals love their guns. What they say publicly doesn't change the fact that the gun manufacturers hold huge political power in the form of the NRA over both parties, and that's not likely to change. If this was not so, we'd have an Australia-style buyout a long time ago. As is, we are stuck with monthly (or is it weekly now?) mass shootings, staggering numbers of handgun murders, and a crazy amount of police brutality simply because access to guns is easy and protected by the NRA. To bring it back to crypto: there is a correlation between easy to obtain $TECH and use of $TECH. Currently, HTTPS is not as easy as HTTP, so its adoption is less. Let's Encrypt will change that. Currently, access to guns is easy, so their adoption and use is high. With the current political climate that will never change.

worklogin 12y ago
>As is, we are stuck with monthly (or is it weekly now?) mass shootings, staggering numbers of handgun murders, and a crazy amount of police brutality simply because it's not simple, it's not all because of guns, and until you modify the 2nd amendment, there is no right of the government to remove guns from the public. I could go on about how our homicide rate is not too far out of line with other developed countries, how many many gun deaths are self inflicted, how there are a million things that kill more people each year than guns, but this goes way off the NSA topic. to crypto, that's been the whole discussion today with PGP, isn't it? That the reason it's not adopted is because it isn't easy.
- IgorPartola 12y ago
  Agreed. Discussion for a different thread. I have pretty strong views against mass availability of guns as you can tell, but one issue at a time.
- thesimpsons1022 12y ago
  don't have to modify the second ammendement, just get non-conservative judges to interpret the consitution how it was meant to be.
fnordfnordfnord 12y ago
Why is easy access to guns a cause of police brutality?
- piqufoh 12y ago
  A police office would be more likely to overreact to a situation if he/she believed a suspect carried a firearm (in fairness, for the sake of the officers own defence). In a state where guns aren't common, the police officer would feel less threatened and be less likely to overreact.
  - fnordfnordfnord 12y ago
    Note that police brutality is the unjustified use of excessive force, not an appropriate response to an attack or a credible threat. Our police in the US use this excuse far too often. They don't need to believe that someone has a weapon; many treat everyone as if it were the default when that simply isn't the case. In fairness to the victims of police violence, this has got to stop. >In a state where guns aren't common, the police officer would feel less threatened and be less likely to overreact. We've allowed our police to develop a culture of brutality and cheating. Taking guns from the public (assuming that's possible) might make things worse.
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worklogin 12y ago

>As is, we are stuck with monthly (or is it weekly now?) mass shootings, staggering numbers of handgun murders, and a crazy amount of police brutality simply because it's not simple, it's not all because of guns, and until you modify the 2nd amendment, there is no right of the government to remove guns from the public. I could go on about how our homicide rate is not too far out of line with other developed countries, how many many gun deaths are self inflicted, how there are a million things that kill more people each year than guns, but this goes way off the NSA topic. to crypto, that's been the whole discussion today with PGP, isn't it? That the reason it's not adopted is because it isn't easy.

IgorPartola 12y ago
Agreed. Discussion for a different thread. I have pretty strong views against mass availability of guns as you can tell, but one issue at a time.
thesimpsons1022 12y ago
don't have to modify the second ammendement, just get non-conservative judges to interpret the consitution how it was meant to be.

fnordfnordfnord 12y ago

Why is easy access to guns a cause of police brutality?

piqufoh 12y ago
A police office would be more likely to overreact to a situation if he/she believed a suspect carried a firearm (in fairness, for the sake of the officers own defence). In a state where guns aren't common, the police officer would feel less threatened and be less likely to overreact.
- fnordfnordfnord 12y ago
  Note that police brutality is the unjustified use of excessive force, not an appropriate response to an attack or a credible threat. Our police in the US use this excuse far too often. They don't need to believe that someone has a weapon; many treat everyone as if it were the default when that simply isn't the case. In fairness to the victims of police violence, this has got to stop. >In a state where guns aren't common, the police officer would feel less threatened and be less likely to overreact. We've allowed our police to develop a culture of brutality and cheating. Taking guns from the public (assuming that's possible) might make things worse.
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