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That's not what I'm saying. Amazon, Facebook, Google and Netflix would be victims of this. People would still use their services, but they'd use their services

by kolbe 12y ago

That's not what I'm saying. Amazon, Facebook, Google and Netflix would be victims of this. People would still use their services, but they'd use their services through the dedicated iOS app, not through a browser. Then Apple will have become a necessary middle man for the consumption of the content that those companies distribute. And who knows what Apple would be able to get away with at that point. Charge Facebook $100mm whenever the push out an updated version of their app? All Amazon purchases must be made with ApplePay? Who knows.

robmcm 12y ago
This would be anti competitive as soon as the app store had a majority market share. If it became too difficult for them "Charge Facebook $100mm" they would replace support with a lower quantity web app and blame Apple. The reality is that Apple don't have as much interest in the web anymore, they have achieved their goal with web standards (removing enough of a dependency on Flash so they didn't have to support it). They have no need to make the web a successful app platform, so why waste effort on it. For Google it's part of their core business, look at Angular, Closure tools, Dart, GWT etc...
- empthought 12y ago
  > For Google it's part of their core business No, it's not. https://investor.google.com/financial/tables.html https://investor.google.com/financial/tables.html Total Advertising Revenues: $59,056,000,000 Total Other Revenues: $6,945,000,000
  - robmcm 12y ago
    How do they generate such high advertising revenues? People using google services, allowing them to build detailed portfolios to sell to advertisers. All of this happens though the web. Native apps and things like android are just a way to drive people back to the web.
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    - empthought 12y ago
      Most of it comes from AdWords, i.e. Google Search. Angular, GWT, Closure, and Dart have nothing to do with it. They're also all essentially abandonware from Google's point of view, because management has rightly realized they have nothing to do with their core business.
      - robmcm 12y ago
        What are the tools to manage those services written in? Angular was borne out of AdWords tooling, just as React was from FB advertising. Now consider Google have chromebooks, where those apps must run on the web.

by kolbe 12y ago

robmcm 12y ago

This would be anti competitive as soon as the app store had a majority market share. If it became too difficult for them "Charge Facebook $100mm" they would replace support with a lower quantity web app and blame Apple. The reality is that Apple don't have as much interest in the web anymore, they have achieved their goal with web standards (removing enough of a dependency on Flash so they didn't have to support it). They have no need to make the web a successful app platform, so why waste effort on it. For Google it's part of their core business, look at Angular, Closure tools, Dart, GWT etc...

empthought 12y ago
> For Google it's part of their core business No, it's not. https://investor.google.com/financial/tables.html https://investor.google.com/financial/tables.html Total Advertising Revenues: $59,056,000,000 Total Other Revenues: $6,945,000,000
- robmcm 12y ago
  How do they generate such high advertising revenues? People using google services, allowing them to build detailed portfolios to sell to advertisers. All of this happens though the web. Native apps and things like android are just a way to drive people back to the web.
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  - empthought 12y ago
    Most of it comes from AdWords, i.e. Google Search. Angular, GWT, Closure, and Dart have nothing to do with it. They're also all essentially abandonware from Google's point of view, because management has rightly realized they have nothing to do with their core business.
    - robmcm 12y ago
      What are the tools to manage those services written in? Angular was borne out of AdWords tooling, just as React was from FB advertising. Now consider Google have chromebooks, where those apps must run on the web.