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As that comment pointed out, once Apple decides that your device is "obsolete", it stops getting updates, so there are plenty of still-used iOS devices that wil

by FreakyT 12y ago

As that comment pointed out, once Apple decides that your device is "obsolete", it stops getting updates, so there are plenty of still-used iOS devices that will never have their Webkit versions updated. Personally, I suspect this lack of updates has less to do with actual obsoleteness and more to do with ensuring that you always buy the latest device. (Note that this isn't a problem unique to Apple -- many companies, including many Android OEMs, are even worse about it. I honestly feel like it should be illegal to sell hardware and never update it, but I'm really not sure how something like that could be enforced.)

thisjepisje 12y ago
It's not unique to mobile devices either. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence
- melling 12y ago
  And desktops. IE8 still has almost 20% market share. https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2&qpcustomd=0 https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qpr... XP looks like it will be with us long after people have upgraded to newer iPhones.
  - teamhappy 12y ago
    IE 8 has less than 5% in pretty much every other statistic. http://www.w3counter.com/trends http://www.w3counter.com/trends http://gs.statcounter.com/#desktop-browser-ww-monthly-201401-201501 http://gs.statcounter.com/#desktop-browser-ww-monthly-201401... https://www.stetic.com/market-share/browser/ https://www.stetic.com/market-share/browser/ http://clicky.com/marketshare/global/web-browsers/versions/ http://clicky.com/marketshare/global/web-browsers/versions/
    - melling 12y ago
      So, there's still an "IE6" effect, right. More so than an iOS 6 effect? Web developers must test and fix for IE8.
    - pjmlp 12y ago
      Those statics don't cover company internal websites.
yoz-y 12y ago
This can be turned around and say that it is actually the progress of the web which is obsoleting the devices. Device manufacturers can not update the devices forever, although they could keep them updated a while longer.
- smackfu 12y ago
  I can run modern Chrome on Windows XP despite Microsoft dropping support for that OS. I can't do the same for iOS 7. I can't even install a third-party browser engine due to Apple's rules (only a skin over WebKit is allowed.)
TazeTSchnitzel 12y ago
To be fair on Apple, they usually only drop devices once the OS wouldn't run performantly on them. The issue of non-updated devices used to plague Android far more than iOS. Also, you aren't describing IE6, then. You're describing IE. The issue of obsolete OSes not having new features? IE6/7/8/9/10 gave us that. But calling Safari IE6 is weird, there's no specific version. Apple didn't ever stop work on Safari.

by FreakyT 12y ago

thisjepisje 12y ago

It's not unique to mobile devices either. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence

melling 12y ago
And desktops. IE8 still has almost 20% market share. https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2&qpcustomd=0 https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qpr... XP looks like it will be with us long after people have upgraded to newer iPhones.
- teamhappy 12y ago
  IE 8 has less than 5% in pretty much every other statistic. http://www.w3counter.com/trends http://www.w3counter.com/trends http://gs.statcounter.com/#desktop-browser-ww-monthly-201401-201501 http://gs.statcounter.com/#desktop-browser-ww-monthly-201401... https://www.stetic.com/market-share/browser/ https://www.stetic.com/market-share/browser/ http://clicky.com/marketshare/global/web-browsers/versions/ http://clicky.com/marketshare/global/web-browsers/versions/
  - melling 12y ago
    So, there's still an "IE6" effect, right. More so than an iOS 6 effect? Web developers must test and fix for IE8.
  - pjmlp 12y ago
    Those statics don't cover company internal websites.

yoz-y 12y ago

This can be turned around and say that it is actually the progress of the web which is obsoleting the devices. Device manufacturers can not update the devices forever, although they could keep them updated a while longer.

smackfu 12y ago
I can run modern Chrome on Windows XP despite Microsoft dropping support for that OS. I can't do the same for iOS 7. I can't even install a third-party browser engine due to Apple's rules (only a skin over WebKit is allowed.)

TazeTSchnitzel 12y ago

To be fair on Apple, they usually only drop devices once the OS wouldn't run performantly on them. The issue of non-updated devices used to plague Android far more than iOS. Also, you aren't describing IE6, then. You're describing IE. The issue of obsolete OSes not having new features? IE6/7/8/9/10 gave us that. But calling Safari IE6 is weird, there's no specific version. Apple didn't ever stop work on Safari.