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These "immersive" stories will disappear once the realization that the RIO on them doesn't work. Who actually sits down and passively consumes media in this hal

by PlzSnow 12y ago

These "immersive" stories will disappear once the realization that the RIO on them doesn't work. Who actually sits down and passively consumes media in this half passive/half active way? The only companies left using them will be those with no concern about ROI such as here; the state-funded BBC.

barking 12y ago
I agree with you, I found this irritating, maybe it will improve in the future. In the meantime the wikipedia article is much more user friendly in my view : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea
- _lce0 12y ago
  I really would like to disable such scroll animations
Jolijn 12y ago
I like it! I scroll through until I find an interesting picture, then read the part of the text that goes with it. In the end I read most-but-not-all of the article, in a haphazard sequence.
- reacweb 12y ago
  I think it is a bit like reading a "glossy magazine". It is not the same expectation as an encyclopedia, but it is pleasant to read (at least for me).
  - kaybe 12y ago
    I like optional videos. It's still possible to view them if one feels like it, but it's not necessary to understand and enjoy the rest.
- michaelbuckbee 12y ago
  I liked it as well, I think these kind of "immersive" stories are highly execution dependent and in this particular case quite well done. In particular the series of 3 slides (pages) - that showed the lake shrinking over time were quite effective at conveying just how much of a calamity the situation is.
andyjohnson0 12y ago
the state-funded BBC The BBC is not funded by the state. It's funded by the people in the UK who pay for a TV licence, plus some income from selling its products outside the UK. Its definition of ROI is different to that of a purely commercial player.
- joshuaheard 12y ago
  The state imposes a TV tax which it uses to fund BBC. I would call that "state-funded" myself. (The fact that they resell some of the content overseas doesn't change that.)
  - teh_klev 12y ago
    TV Licensing is not a "tax", you can choose to pay it, or not depending on whether you want to watch/record live broadcast TV, or not. See my comment above: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9117324 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9117324
    - joshuaheard 12y ago
      Tax or fee, the money goes to the state which goes to BBC. State funded.
- d_theorist 12y ago
  Of course it is state-funded. The state has made a law that requires anybody who wants to own a television to pay money to the BBC.
  - teh_klev 12y ago
    >Of course it is state-funded. The BBC is not state funded, state owned and state controlled perhaps - but that's a whole other discussion. Television owners can elect to pay or not pay for a TV License which is what funds the BBC, there is a choice. What is state funded are the 4 million or so licenses which are free to anyone over 75. > The state has made a law that requires anybody who wants to own a television to pay money to the BBC Not quite correct. You can own a television and decline to pay the TV license provided you don't watch or record live broadcasts. This means I can watch stuff on iPlayer on my Roku/PC/Android etc and the BBC can't force me to pay a license. I ditched my TV license back in 2006 for political reasons, I've had a couple of visits from the TV License "enquiry officers" (who are in fact employees of Capita, a public limited company). You don't have to permit TV License staff access to your home or provide them with any personal details. In fact you can permanently deny any TV Licensing representative from setting foot on your property. This is known as "Withdrawing implied right of access" [1][2]. [1]: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-administering-the-licence-fee-AB20 http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-administering-the-lic... [2]: http://www.bbctvlicence.com/Withholding%20implied%20right%20of%20access.htm http://www.bbctvlicence.com/Withholding%20implied%20right%20...
chhib 12y ago
Swedish heavily ad-funded tabloid Aftonbladet is also experimenting with immersive stories. http://story.aftonbladet.se/spice/2 http://story.aftonbladet.se/spice/2 (This about the drug trade with "Spice".) I think the news industry is basically trying everything to see how to capture the increasingly mobile user base. Hopefully this is a step away from advertisors' impression frenzy.
arethuza 12y ago
Well, as a UK citizen who pays their license fee I thought this worked rather well - I'm quite happy for the BBC to try things like this.

by PlzSnow 12y ago

barking 12y ago

I agree with you, I found this irritating, maybe it will improve in the future. In the meantime the wikipedia article is much more user friendly in my view : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea

_lce0 12y ago
I really would like to disable such scroll animations

Jolijn 12y ago

I like it! I scroll through until I find an interesting picture, then read the part of the text that goes with it. In the end I read most-but-not-all of the article, in a haphazard sequence.

reacweb 12y ago
I think it is a bit like reading a "glossy magazine". It is not the same expectation as an encyclopedia, but it is pleasant to read (at least for me).
- kaybe 12y ago
  I like optional videos. It's still possible to view them if one feels like it, but it's not necessary to understand and enjoy the rest.
michaelbuckbee 12y ago
I liked it as well, I think these kind of "immersive" stories are highly execution dependent and in this particular case quite well done. In particular the series of 3 slides (pages) - that showed the lake shrinking over time were quite effective at conveying just how much of a calamity the situation is.

andyjohnson0 12y ago

the state-funded BBC The BBC is not funded by the state. It's funded by the people in the UK who pay for a TV licence, plus some income from selling its products outside the UK. Its definition of ROI is different to that of a purely commercial player.

joshuaheard 12y ago
The state imposes a TV tax which it uses to fund BBC. I would call that "state-funded" myself. (The fact that they resell some of the content overseas doesn't change that.)
- teh_klev 12y ago
  TV Licensing is not a "tax", you can choose to pay it, or not depending on whether you want to watch/record live broadcast TV, or not. See my comment above: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9117324 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9117324
  - joshuaheard 12y ago
    Tax or fee, the money goes to the state which goes to BBC. State funded.
d_theorist 12y ago
Of course it is state-funded. The state has made a law that requires anybody who wants to own a television to pay money to the BBC.
- teh_klev 12y ago
  >Of course it is state-funded. The BBC is not state funded, state owned and state controlled perhaps - but that's a whole other discussion. Television owners can elect to pay or not pay for a TV License which is what funds the BBC, there is a choice. What is state funded are the 4 million or so licenses which are free to anyone over 75. > The state has made a law that requires anybody who wants to own a television to pay money to the BBC Not quite correct. You can own a television and decline to pay the TV license provided you don't watch or record live broadcasts. This means I can watch stuff on iPlayer on my Roku/PC/Android etc and the BBC can't force me to pay a license. I ditched my TV license back in 2006 for political reasons, I've had a couple of visits from the TV License "enquiry officers" (who are in fact employees of Capita, a public limited company). You don't have to permit TV License staff access to your home or provide them with any personal details. In fact you can permanently deny any TV Licensing representative from setting foot on your property. This is known as "Withdrawing implied right of access" [1][2]. [1]: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-administering-the-licence-fee-AB20 http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-administering-the-lic... [2]: http://www.bbctvlicence.com/Withholding%20implied%20right%20of%20access.htm http://www.bbctvlicence.com/Withholding%20implied%20right%20...

chhib 12y ago

Swedish heavily ad-funded tabloid Aftonbladet is also experimenting with immersive stories. http://story.aftonbladet.se/spice/2 http://story.aftonbladet.se/spice/2 (This about the drug trade with "Spice".) I think the news industry is basically trying everything to see how to capture the increasingly mobile user base. Hopefully this is a step away from advertisors' impression frenzy.

arethuza 12y ago

Well, as a UK citizen who pays their license fee I thought this worked rather well - I'm quite happy for the BBC to try things like this.