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Well maybe I am working too hard. :-) But really, how many startup founders on HN are putting in 35 hour weeks? At $100/hr I don't think $20/mo is easy, but I'

Well maybe I am working too hard. :-) But really, how many startup founders on HN are putting in 35 hour weeks? At $100/hr I don't think $20/mo is easy, but I'd say you could hit it once or twice a year. That's what I mean by "doable."

mattmanser 12y ago
Your whole argument has collapsed, so :( The original quote was that it was more than $20k a month. For a decade. You're missing $5k a month and again, that's without having any time to market, bill, do your taxes, etc.
- chaqke 12y ago
  ..perhaps he isn't at $100/hour?
- pjungwir 12y ago
  I was replying to this: "my best months have been ~$18K". Sorry for trying to encourage someone. You're right that $20k minimum is a lot harder, at $100/hr probably impossible. But as a peak? Last year January, July, October, and December all had 23 weekdays. $100/hr * 9 hr/day * 23 days/mo = $20700/mo. If you have no commute and maybe do a Saturday or two that's pretty doable. I wouldn't make it routine, but I've occasionally had months that busy. Yes, not all hours are billable, but the non-billable stuff isn't that time consuming: Marketing: Aren't most freelancers turning away work right now? Billing: I push the "invoice" button and it's done. 1-2 hours a month. Taxes: If you're working for yourself you shouldn't do your own taxes. Anyway, I hope this is helpful to someone. Best of luck to you all.
  - porker 12y ago
    > $100/hr * 9 hr/day * 23 days/mo = $20700/mo. I know you mention a Saturday, but if you can bill 9 productive hours a day, I take my hat off to you. I could in my early-mid 20's, I can't any longer. > Marketing: Aren't most freelancers turning away work right now? Not here in the UK, not the ones I know of (that is, the ones who don't have part-time speaking careers or get featured in magazines).
- tomcorrigan 12y ago
  Do the maths at $150 (a rate he nominated) and then tell him again that his whole argument has collapsed.

mattmanser 12y ago

Your whole argument has collapsed, so :( The original quote was that it was more than $20k a month. For a decade. You're missing $5k a month and again, that's without having any time to market, bill, do your taxes, etc.

chaqke 12y ago
..perhaps he isn't at $100/hour?
pjungwir 12y ago
I was replying to this: "my best months have been ~$18K". Sorry for trying to encourage someone. You're right that $20k minimum is a lot harder, at $100/hr probably impossible. But as a peak? Last year January, July, October, and December all had 23 weekdays. $100/hr * 9 hr/day * 23 days/mo = $20700/mo. If you have no commute and maybe do a Saturday or two that's pretty doable. I wouldn't make it routine, but I've occasionally had months that busy. Yes, not all hours are billable, but the non-billable stuff isn't that time consuming: Marketing: Aren't most freelancers turning away work right now? Billing: I push the "invoice" button and it's done. 1-2 hours a month. Taxes: If you're working for yourself you shouldn't do your own taxes. Anyway, I hope this is helpful to someone. Best of luck to you all.
- porker 12y ago
  > $100/hr * 9 hr/day * 23 days/mo = $20700/mo. I know you mention a Saturday, but if you can bill 9 productive hours a day, I take my hat off to you. I could in my early-mid 20's, I can't any longer. > Marketing: Aren't most freelancers turning away work right now? Not here in the UK, not the ones I know of (that is, the ones who don't have part-time speaking careers or get featured in magazines).
tomcorrigan 12y ago
Do the maths at $150 (a rate he nominated) and then tell him again that his whole argument has collapsed.