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Font rendering is a big one for me. For some reason Ubuntu always looks.. ugly. The color scheme, font rendering, icons, etc, etc. Are there no designers in th

by mikeyur 17y ago

Font rendering is a big one for me. For some reason Ubuntu always looks.. ugly. The color scheme, font rendering, icons, etc, etc. Are there no designers in the open source community willing to help out? Or do the project leads not give a crap about design?

mquander 17y ago
I personally find the Ubuntu out-of-the-box font rendering with the DejaVu font family on my laptop LCD to be on par aesthetically with Windows and OS X font rendering, so consider at least that there is an element of taste involved. (Unless some bug is making your fonts exceptionally bad for some reason.) Unfortunately, I am personally unable to duplicate Ubuntu's pretty fonts on Gentoo, no matter how hard I configure X and fonts/local.conf.
- bretthoerner 17y ago
  The menus and title bars look great. But open Firefox and and go to Gmail or something and compare it to OS X.
  - davars 17y ago
    Even with msttcorefonts installed?
    - mikeyur 17y ago
      The problem is that it doesn't look good out of the box. I shouldn't have to hack a bunch of stuff together to get it working properly.
      - whatusername 17y ago
        True - but when we start comparing it to Windows - (disable crapware, install firefox, install anti-virus, install iTunes) vs Ubuntu (install restricted-extras) then a Ubuntu setup starts looking pretty good.
  - maco 17y ago
    Firefox, like OpenOffice.org, bundles its own renderer instead of using the OS's renderer. That's why Ubuntu fonts look good, and Firefox fonts look blurry.
- runinit 17y ago
  In Arch the AUR directory has packages called fontconfig-ubuntu, cairo-ubuntu, and libxft-ubuntu , i found when i compiled those my font rendering was the same as ubuntus. Maybe Gentoo has the same packages, or you could grab the sources from AUR and compile them manually?
daleharvey 17y ago
font rendering has always been a huge + on ubuntu for me http://junk.arandomurl.com/type.jpg http://junk.arandomurl.com/type.jpg
- maximilian 17y ago
  which paragraph represents what?
  - daleharvey 17y ago
    1. OSX 2. Windows XP 3. Ubuntu all plain installs

by mikeyur 17y ago

mquander 17y ago

I personally find the Ubuntu out-of-the-box font rendering with the DejaVu font family on my laptop LCD to be on par aesthetically with Windows and OS X font rendering, so consider at least that there is an element of taste involved. (Unless some bug is making your fonts exceptionally bad for some reason.) Unfortunately, I am personally unable to duplicate Ubuntu's pretty fonts on Gentoo, no matter how hard I configure X and fonts/local.conf.

bretthoerner 17y ago
The menus and title bars look great. But open Firefox and and go to Gmail or something and compare it to OS X.
- davars 17y ago
  Even with msttcorefonts installed?
  - mikeyur 17y ago
    The problem is that it doesn't look good out of the box. I shouldn't have to hack a bunch of stuff together to get it working properly.
    - whatusername 17y ago
      True - but when we start comparing it to Windows - (disable crapware, install firefox, install anti-virus, install iTunes) vs Ubuntu (install restricted-extras) then a Ubuntu setup starts looking pretty good.
- maco 17y ago
  Firefox, like OpenOffice.org, bundles its own renderer instead of using the OS's renderer. That's why Ubuntu fonts look good, and Firefox fonts look blurry.
runinit 17y ago
In Arch the AUR directory has packages called fontconfig-ubuntu, cairo-ubuntu, and libxft-ubuntu , i found when i compiled those my font rendering was the same as ubuntus. Maybe Gentoo has the same packages, or you could grab the sources from AUR and compile them manually?

daleharvey 17y ago

font rendering has always been a huge + on ubuntu for me http://junk.arandomurl.com/type.jpg http://junk.arandomurl.com/type.jpg

maximilian 17y ago
which paragraph represents what?
- daleharvey 17y ago
  1. OSX 2. Windows XP 3. Ubuntu all plain installs