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Luka: A.I. recommending restaurants in a chat interface

62 points by kuyda 12y ago

_lce0 12y ago
at a glance seems so similar to the "magic" app that I can certainly think of this "natural talk chat" as some next trend for apps is this going over sms?
- karmacondon 12y ago
  Too bad they didn't get the memo about the magic concept. The video is cute, but no way I'm installing this app without being able to try it first somehow.
  - kuyda 12y ago
    SMS is going to be our next step - we started with texting in Russia actually. Our own app however let's us get a better UX for the users. Thanks for the tip!
    - deftnerd 12y ago
      Your next step should be making it available through Slack in some way. Lots of teams would love to be able to figure out where to eat by typing /lunch and then all the team members can chime in with any restrictions.
eastbayjake 12y ago
This was fun to play with. It suggested an Indian restaurant so I tried saying "I don't like Indian food" and it followed up about whether I don't like it or I'm just not in the mood now. After suggesting another restaurant it correctly understood "Can you suggest something cheaper?" and returned a <$10 option. The "tell me more" option left a bit to be desired -- Luka just said "It's a good place." Looking forward to when Luka "learns" about Oakland restaurants!
- kuyda 12y ago
  Thanks for your feedback - we're improving our restaurant data now (it's all being collected automatically). Oakland is next to come - we'll keep you updated!
rdoherty 12y ago
Why a downloadable app exclusively? Would love to not have to install it to try it out.
nicolasehrhardt 12y ago
Just curious about your data sources, could you tell us what you are basing your recommendation on? Are you using review sites (Facebook, Google, Yelp) or is it something completely different?
- kuyda 12y ago
  We use more than 15 different data sources - mainly user reviews (Yelp, 4Square, TripAdvisor), blogs and professional media (SF Gate, Eater etc) and guidebooks (Michelin, Zagat etc). All data is collected automatically and then plugged into our data model. We extract entities and make sentiment analysis to learn what this place is good for exactly and to show relevant quotes. As people share much more in a conversation than they would on sites like Yelp matching our users' preferences with the restaurant data makes our recommendations more relevant and personalised.
rbcoffee 12y ago
Is it Turing complete?
- Buge 12y ago
  Are you referring to Turing completeness as in computational capability, or are you referring to the Turing test?
mkorfmann 12y ago
While I kind of participated in the current AI/.ai hype, I'm starting to get really sick of hearing about another new application which "talks to you in natural language" or makes "Websites That Design Themselves". The truth is, where not there yet and these people try to make one believe we are. Sure, some may argue that these applications are indeed kind of intelligent and thus can be called A.I., but by this definition even Amazons recommendation algorithm is A.I. I'm pretty sure that applications which "talk to you in natural language" or make "Websites That Design Themselves" are appealing to some at the moment but I doubt they will be successful in the long run.
- deet 12y ago
  Just using a ".ai" domain doesn't mean that the company is claiming the product is true AI. I don't see any such claim on the marketing site or the App Store page. Not sure where the title here on HN came from. Edit: typo, mention of HN title
  - kuyda 12y ago
    How would you call it then? It's an app that mimics a friend that knows a lot about restaurants - I believe that can be called AI. However we used AI in the title just to make it easier to understand what we do. We sometimes just say it's a mobile app that gives you restaurant recommendations in a chat interface.
    - petercooper 12y ago
      Things like this would more formally be called 'agents', software agents, or intelligent personal assistants (which are a type of agent). However, I think AI is perfectly acceptable in common usage nowadays. Some people will just get caught up with the 'formal' definition, but the media and, increasingly, consumers are just using the term "AI" now anyway.
ars 12y ago
Do you handle dietary restrictions? Kosher, Halal, Vegan, Vegetarian, etc?
- kuyda 12y ago
  we do and we recommend places based on your diet!
dajohnson89 12y ago
I had to download the app and launch it, only to find out that it only serves the SF/Bay Area. I don't live there. And even if I did, it seemed to require a Facebook login. Which I don't have.
jgalt212 12y ago
Another year, another foursquare pivot.
missingjdubb 12y ago
What does your software stack look like?

62 points by kuyda 12y ago

_lce0 12y ago

at a glance seems so similar to the "magic" app that I can certainly think of this "natural talk chat" as some next trend for apps is this going over sms?

karmacondon 12y ago
Too bad they didn't get the memo about the magic concept. The video is cute, but no way I'm installing this app without being able to try it first somehow.
- kuyda 12y ago
  SMS is going to be our next step - we started with texting in Russia actually. Our own app however let's us get a better UX for the users. Thanks for the tip!
  - deftnerd 12y ago
    Your next step should be making it available through Slack in some way. Lots of teams would love to be able to figure out where to eat by typing /lunch and then all the team members can chime in with any restrictions.

eastbayjake 12y ago

This was fun to play with. It suggested an Indian restaurant so I tried saying "I don't like Indian food" and it followed up about whether I don't like it or I'm just not in the mood now. After suggesting another restaurant it correctly understood "Can you suggest something cheaper?" and returned a <$10 option. The "tell me more" option left a bit to be desired -- Luka just said "It's a good place." Looking forward to when Luka "learns" about Oakland restaurants!

kuyda 12y ago
Thanks for your feedback - we're improving our restaurant data now (it's all being collected automatically). Oakland is next to come - we'll keep you updated!

rdoherty 12y ago

Why a downloadable app exclusively? Would love to not have to install it to try it out.

nicolasehrhardt 12y ago

Just curious about your data sources, could you tell us what you are basing your recommendation on? Are you using review sites (Facebook, Google, Yelp) or is it something completely different?

kuyda 12y ago
We use more than 15 different data sources - mainly user reviews (Yelp, 4Square, TripAdvisor), blogs and professional media (SF Gate, Eater etc) and guidebooks (Michelin, Zagat etc). All data is collected automatically and then plugged into our data model. We extract entities and make sentiment analysis to learn what this place is good for exactly and to show relevant quotes. As people share much more in a conversation than they would on sites like Yelp matching our users' preferences with the restaurant data makes our recommendations more relevant and personalised.

rbcoffee 12y ago

Is it Turing complete?

Buge 12y ago
Are you referring to Turing completeness as in computational capability, or are you referring to the Turing test?

mkorfmann 12y ago

While I kind of participated in the current AI/.ai hype, I'm starting to get really sick of hearing about another new application which "talks to you in natural language" or makes "Websites That Design Themselves". The truth is, where not there yet and these people try to make one believe we are. Sure, some may argue that these applications are indeed kind of intelligent and thus can be called A.I., but by this definition even Amazons recommendation algorithm is A.I. I'm pretty sure that applications which "talk to you in natural language" or make "Websites That Design Themselves" are appealing to some at the moment but I doubt they will be successful in the long run.

deet 12y ago
Just using a ".ai" domain doesn't mean that the company is claiming the product is true AI. I don't see any such claim on the marketing site or the App Store page. Not sure where the title here on HN came from. Edit: typo, mention of HN title
- kuyda 12y ago
  How would you call it then? It's an app that mimics a friend that knows a lot about restaurants - I believe that can be called AI. However we used AI in the title just to make it easier to understand what we do. We sometimes just say it's a mobile app that gives you restaurant recommendations in a chat interface.
  - petercooper 12y ago
    Things like this would more formally be called 'agents', software agents, or intelligent personal assistants (which are a type of agent). However, I think AI is perfectly acceptable in common usage nowadays. Some people will just get caught up with the 'formal' definition, but the media and, increasingly, consumers are just using the term "AI" now anyway.

ars 12y ago

Do you handle dietary restrictions? Kosher, Halal, Vegan, Vegetarian, etc?

kuyda 12y ago
we do and we recommend places based on your diet!

dajohnson89 12y ago

I had to download the app and launch it, only to find out that it only serves the SF/Bay Area. I don't live there. And even if I did, it seemed to require a Facebook login. Which I don't have.

jgalt212 12y ago

Another year, another foursquare pivot.

missingjdubb 12y ago

What does your software stack look like?